[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: CHIC
- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
- To: ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:25:38 -0500 (EST)
You can find the info on cardiac testing requirements on the OFA web site
Sara.
Thanks for the how to explanation on DNA cheek swabs <G>.
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)
In a message dated 12/11/2011 7:52:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx writes:
Kathy,
I find your experience with cardiac testing interesting. Do you know if
the cardiac test was through a vet office or a certified cardiologist using
echocardiogram and color doppler?
In regard to the DM test, I have yet to hear of a false result when the
test was done through OFA (based on my research). But, I did notice that OFA
stopped accepting other DM test results from labs that were not their own.
So, maybe some labs had different testing which resulted in false results.
I would err on the side of caution and absolutely test for DM but do it
through OFA. I tested my pup and it was pretty easy. You just really had to
make sure the mouth was clean with no residue of food or bone or anything
so we swabbed first thing in morning before breakfast AND that you don't
accidentally touch the swab part! Just my opinion....
Sara
On Dec 11, 2011, at 7:36 AM, _Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxxx
(mailto:Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx) wrote:
Good answer Kay although I must say I was disappointed w/ the OFA cardiac
test and if one were to be honest, the thyroid test should probably be done
every year to mean anything. (I just did a 10 1/2 year old, his skin was
getting dry, came back fine, naturally didn't bother to send it in).
The reason I was disappointed w/ the whole cardiac thing? I learned
(through a lister, but it's actually true) that a dog w/ a murmur can still
get
(cardiac) certified. Scratching my head wondering what's the point????
I'd know at 6 weeks if a puppy had a problem. I don't know any serious
breeder who would keep let alone breed a dog w/ a heart issue. The last time
I had a dog at the vet I had the vet sign their cert, verify their chip #
and sent it along to OFA w/ $15. I guess I'll start doing that, but again,
for ME, pretty worthless.
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)
In a message dated 12/10/2011 11:01:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
_SHOWGSD@xxxxxxxx (mailto:SHOWGSD@xxxxxxx) writes:
>
> 1)Do you think the time has come to change the CHIC requirements to
> include additional tests like cardiac and thyroid and, particularly,
> DM?
As I have previously stated, I was extremely disappointed when the
CHIC requirements were lowered and the tests for heart and thyroid
were removed. It made absolutely no sense to lower requirements just
to get the numbers up. How is that helping the health of the breed?
I sincerely think that the new officers and board need to revisit this
and bring the requirements back to what they were before.
As far as adding requirements for DM and Mega, I think this needs to
be studied only for the fact that there is some concern by many that
the DM test is not as good as it should be. I don't know if this is
true or not. Since it is the only test we have I certainly think all
breeding dogs need to have this test done and the results made
public. I have tested my dogs for DM for years starting with the
University of Florida test many years ago and recently using the OFA
test. I understand there is work being done to develop a test for
Mega. If this does prove to be something that can be genetically
determined and the test is conclusive, I think then it should be add
to the CHIC.
Kay Springer
_www.showboatgsd.com_ (http://www.showboatgsd.com/)
Home of Multi BISS & Multi Group Winning
Ch. Rohan's Reward TC,CGC,HT,RE,CDX, CHIC (h,e,h,t) DM Clear
"Strider" 80 BOBs #5 & #6 GSD 2009
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