[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: CHIC
- From: brian and sara minsk <ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx>
- To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:52:23 -0500
Kathy,
I find your experience with cardiac testing interesting. Do you know if the
cardiac test was through a vet office or a certified cardiologist using
echocardiogram and color doppler?
In regard to the DM test, I have yet to hear of a false result when the test
was done through OFA (based on my research). But, I did notice that OFA
stopped accepting other DM test results from labs that were not their own. So,
maybe some labs had different testing which resulted in false results. I would
err on the side of caution and absolutely test for DM but do it through OFA. I
tested my pup and it was pretty easy. You just really had to make sure the
mouth was clean with no residue of food or bone or anything so we swabbed first
thing in morning before breakfast AND that you don't accidentally touch the
swab part! Just my opinion....
Sara
On Dec 11, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Good answer Kay although I must say I was disappointed w/ the OFA cardiac
> test and if one were to be honest, the thyroid test should probably be done
> every year to mean anything. (I just did a 10 1/2 year old, his skin was
> getting dry, came back fine, naturally didn't bother to send it in).
>
> The reason I was disappointed w/ the whole cardiac thing? I learned (through
> a lister, but it's actually true) that a dog w/ a murmur can still get
> (cardiac) certified. Scratching my head wondering what's the point????
>
> I'd know at 6 weeks if a puppy had a problem. I don't know any serious
> breeder who would keep let alone breed a dog w/ a heart issue. The last time
> I had a dog at the vet I had the vet sign their cert, verify their chip # and
> sent it along to OFA w/ $15. I guess I'll start doing that, but again, for
> ME, pretty worthless.
>
> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
> Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
> visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/
>
> In a message dated 12/10/2011 11:01:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> SHOWGSD@xxxxxxx writes:
> >
> > 1)Do you think the time has come to change the CHIC requirements to
> > include additional tests like cardiac and thyroid and, particularly,
> > DM?
> As I have previously stated, I was extremely disappointed when the
> CHIC requirements were lowered and the tests for heart and thyroid
> were removed. It made absolutely no sense to lower requirements just
> to get the numbers up. How is that helping the health of the breed?
> I sincerely think that the new officers and board need to revisit this
> and bring the requirements back to what they were before.
>
> As far as adding requirements for DM and Mega, I think this needs to
> be studied only for the fact that there is some concern by many that
> the DM test is not as good as it should be. I don't know if this is
> true or not. Since it is the only test we have I certainly think all
> breeding dogs need to have this test done and the results made
> public. I have tested my dogs for DM for years starting with the
> University of Florida test many years ago and recently using the OFA
> test. I understand there is work being done to develop a test for
> Mega. If this does prove to be something that can be genetically
> determined and the test is conclusive, I think then it should be add
> to the CHIC.
>
>
>
> Kay Springer
> www.showboatgsd.com
> Home of Multi BISS & Multi Group Winning
> Ch. Rohan's Reward TC,CGC,HT,RE,CDX, CHIC (h,e,h,t) DM Clear
> "Strider" 80 BOBs #5 & #6 GSD 2009
>
>
>
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