I have to disagree with Mr. Wiseman on whether "The Principle" is controversial or not. It isn't controversial at all. You don't get to claim something is controversial just because a bunch of folks with no understanding of basic science insist something is wrong. This movie is on par with "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed." Is there controversy among astronomers regarding heliocentrism? No. The heliocentric model is far less controversial than the acceptance among climate scientists that increasing carbon dioxide is primarily responsible for global warming (97%). Galileo Galilei laid this matter to rest with his publication of "Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems," (which I can loan to anyone who would like to read it--English version--not the original Italian) 382 years ago. To promote geocentrism over heliocentrism is to rescind Newton's theory of gravity, which has served us all so well these past three hundred years. Here is a Scientific American article on "the Axis of Evil" mentioned in the YouTube video (radio program) to which Alan linked. I find no evidence this axis is aligned towards our local group, much less us--if it were we would have a lot more trouble seeing it just as we have trouble discerning the shape of the Milky Way because we are in it. I confess I could not sit through the entire program. Maybe he wasn't actually defending geocentrism, and maybe there was some better point further along--strong anthropic principle, anyone? http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/universal-alignment/ I really liked the Slate take on this "controversy" written by the "bad astronomy" guy Phil Plait. http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/04/08/the_principle_a_documentary_about_geocentrism.html In other news we'll all be floating (again) come January 4th, the "zero gravity" day (due to the alignment of Jupiter and the all-powerful Pluto). http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/12/24/zero_g_day_nope.html Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 12/28/14, Nicholas Wiseman <njtwiseman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Subject: [SAS] Interesting documentary To: sas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, December 28, 2014, 3:16 PM So a new cosmology documentary "The Principle" that's played in one theater in Chicago already has a smallish following here in Spokane/Post Falls. I know of a number of people who are trying to bring it to AMC in Spokane on the 23rd of January (First potential showing). Further details to follow if anyone shows interest. http://www.theprinciplemovie.com/ It is very controversial and I, personally, am very interested in seeing it myself. I was wondering if anyone would like to "claim" a ticket. They're about $10 (give or take a bit) if enough tickets are sold. Otherwise, no money will change hands. I thought I'd let the list know to see if anyone else would be interested. The theater needs to see that 500 tickets have been sold in order for the movie to air. I think close to 400 have been accounted for. The only thing I'm getting out of this is the ability to see the movie, I'm not trying to sell anything for personal gain, it's entirely non-profit and for the love of the science behind what we do as amateurs. I'd also not like to get in a huge debate on the list about the content, if you want to talk about it I think we should keep them, should they follow, on a personal e-mail basis, I don't think that would be proper to talk about controversial science on a stargazing list. So let me know if your interested or want more information. Again, I'd only like to see it and we need more tickets sold to be able to. Check it out, let me know, Also I hope I'm not overstepping the list here, if I am I'll be more than happy to not talk about it again -Thanks!Nick W.