[SAS] Re: Interesting documentary

  • From: Nicholas Wiseman <njtwiseman@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: sas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 13:37:34 -0800

You make interesting points, but as I said before, I'm not going to fill up
everyone's inbox who isn't interested in this discussion.  I don't want to
reply to your no-reply email without knowing if it is your real email haha.

-Nick
P.S. I'm still not convinced I don't want to see it =)



On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Paul <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I have to disagree with Mr. Wiseman on whether "The Principle" is
> controversial or not.  It isn't controversial at all.  You don't get to
> claim something is controversial just because a bunch of folks with no
> understanding of basic science insist something is wrong.
>
> This movie is on par with "Expelled:  No Intelligence Allowed."  Is there
> controversy among astronomers regarding heliocentrism?  No.  The
> heliocentric model is far less controversial than the acceptance among
> climate scientists that increasing carbon dioxide is primarily responsible
> for global warming (97%).
>
> Galileo Galilei laid this matter to rest with his publication of "Dialogue
> Concerning the Two Chief World Systems," (which I can loan to anyone who
> would like to read it--English version--not the original Italian) 382 years
> ago.  To promote geocentrism over heliocentrism is to rescind Newton's
> theory of gravity, which has served us all so well these past three hundred
> years.
>
>
> Here is a Scientific American article on "the Axis of Evil" mentioned in
> the YouTube video (radio program) to which Alan linked.  I find no evidence
> this axis is aligned towards our local group, much less us--if it were we
> would have a lot more trouble seeing it just as we have trouble discerning
> the shape of the Milky Way because we are in it.  I confess I could not sit
> through the entire program.  Maybe he wasn't actually defending
> geocentrism, and maybe there was some better point further along--strong
> anthropic principle, anyone?
>
> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/universal-alignment/
>
> I really liked the Slate take on this "controversy" written by the "bad
> astronomy" guy Phil Plait.
>
>
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/04/08/the_principle_a_documentary_about_geocentrism.html
>
> In other news we'll all be floating (again) come January 4th, the "zero
> gravity" day (due to the alignment of Jupiter and the all-powerful Pluto).
>
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/12/24/zero_g_day_nope.html
>
>
>
>
> Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo
>
>
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> On Sun, 12/28/14, Nicholas Wiseman <njtwiseman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Subject: [SAS] Interesting documentary
>  To: sas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Date: Sunday, December 28, 2014, 3:16 PM
>
>  So a new cosmology
>  documentary "The Principle" that's played in
>  one theater in Chicago already has a smallish following here
>  in Spokane/Post Falls.  I know of a number of people who
>  are trying to bring it to AMC in Spokane on the 23rd of
>  January (First potential showing).  Further details to
>  follow if anyone shows interest.  http://www.theprinciplemovie.com/
>  It is very controversial and I, personally, am
>  very interested in seeing it myself.  I was wondering if
>  anyone would like to "claim" a ticket.
>  They're about $10 (give or take a bit) if enough
>  tickets are sold.  Otherwise, no money will change
>  hands.
>  I thought I'd let the list know to see if
>  anyone else would be interested.  The theater needs to see
>  that 500 tickets have been sold in order for the movie to
>  air.  I think close to 400 have been accounted
>  for.
>  The only thing I'm getting out of this is the
>  ability to see the movie, I'm not trying to sell
>  anything for personal gain, it's entirely non-profit and
>  for the love of the science behind what we do as amateurs.
>
>  I'd also not like to get in a huge debate on
>  the list about the content, if you want to talk about it I
>  think we should keep them, should they follow, on a personal
>  e-mail basis, I don't think that would be proper to talk
>  about controversial science on a stargazing
>  list.
>  So let me know if your interested or want more
>  information.  Again, I'd only like to see it and we
>  need more tickets sold to be able to.  Check it out, let me
>  know,  Also I hope I'm not overstepping the list here,
>  if I am I'll be more than happy to not talk about it
>  again
>  -Thanks!Nick W.
>
>

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