----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Zak" <azak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:36 PM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: development > In 50 years of photography I have not once experienced > emulsion damage > from using non-hardening fixers. > > Allen Zak > I doubt if many if any current materials need hardener. The standard hardening fixing baths like Kodak F-5 (essentially the packaged Kodak fixer) originated in the mid-1930s when emulsions were very soft compared to modern materials. In fact, up to about 1939 the standard processing temperature was 65F. It was raised to 68F after that because some method of improving hardening was applied. I think we use hardening fixer mostly because of tradition. Auxilliary hardener is included in some color processes which operate at very high temperatures and are necessary for some special processes like monobaths, which are very high in pH, but I agree that in general one could do without hardener and suffer no consequences. OTOH, if a wash aid is used the hardener does no harm and may cause film to dry faster (less absorbed moisture due to less swelling). --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list