[rollei_list] Re: OT: development
- From: Allen Zak <azak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 16:24:27 -0400
Jerry,
That inspired me to check out negatives from the first roll of film I
ever developed. It was Kodak Super XX 120 exposed with a borrowed
pre-1940s model Rolleiflex (not sure which) and developed in Harvey's
Panthermic 777. That was 50 years ago. Although the negs are entirely
printable, there is some dichroic fog which, for all I know, may have
been present at the time of processing. In this case, memory does not
serve.
Around that time (mid 1950s) I also experimented with Edwal 12 and 20.
Most of the time I didn't know what the hell I was doing. It was fun,
though.
Allen Zak
On May 21, 2005, at 2:59 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote:
> Allen,
>
> Just checked some of my older negatives (1952). Perfect shape!
> Developed in Edwal 12, Edwal 20, and D24. Yes D24! Halfway
> between D23 and D25.
>
> All my negatives prior to 1952 were thrown out by my mother.
>
> Jerry
>
> Allen Zak wrote:
>
>> Have you looked in on your more venerable negatives lately to see how
>> they have fared all these years? How do they compare to those
>> previously fixed in a more haphazard way?
>>
>> I ask because in my most recent inspection of earlier negatives,
>> sometimes properly fixed and washed according to different techniques,
>> sometimes not, and they look same as ever. I suspect it's hard to
>> mess
>> up film fix and wash too badly. Prints are another story.
>>
>> Allen Zak
>>
>> On May 21, 2005, at 6:29 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>
>>> I stopped getting those problems when I started doing a two bath fix
>>> with my
>>> film just like I've done for a long time with my prints.
>>> This makes for negs that you for sure know you don't have to worry
>>> about
>>> turning on you in anything resembling the near or not so near future.
>>> Where
>>> no film has lasted before.
>>> I'm almost glad tab grain films came about and got me doing this
>>> because I
>>> wish I'd been doing this all along; way before tab grain films came
>>> out in
>>> the early 90s.
>>>
>>> I seem to recall a trick at the rental lab people would put their
>>> slightly
>>> diachronic fogged looking film from such fixing problems on a light
>>> table
>>> for 20 minutes and they'd clear.
>>>
>>> Tab grain films especially Kodak seems to "eat" hypo. (fix)
>>> Having two bottles of rapid fixer A mixed up.
>>> An a and b bath.
>>> recycled and fresh.
>>> And I'ts a no brainer.
>>>
>>> I do a quick rinse before going into the second fix from the first
>>> fix
>>> because that seems obvious to me. Not that I've ever heard of anyone
>>> else
>>> doing it.
>>>
>>> Mark Rabiner
>>> Photography
>>> Portland Oregon
>>> http://rabinergroup.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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