[rollei_list] Re: About some F "white face"... conversions?
- From: "John Wild" <JWild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:17:45 +0100
Carlos,
I have a White Face 3.5F which does not have the 120/220 option. I have owned
it for 20 years. Hence, I would assume it is original because it would have
been sold before sellers realised that they could get more for a White Face
than a standard 3.5F. It has the 'mound' in the side plate that would take the
option lever.
John
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Subject: [rollei_list] About some F "white face"... conversions?
According the Rollei Factory Repair Manual and the Rollei Report II from Claus
Prochnow, the 12/24 120/220 film counter was introduced in the 3.5F and 2.8F
models on 1965, and the new "white face" front panel on 1970 according that
Manual and on 1971 according Prochnow ( it appeared in some list prices on 1971
and then the slight difference), anyway all F "white faces" cameras are
provided with 12/24 120/220 film counter and regarding the 3.5F all "white face
"
cameras are provided with Xenotar 3.5/75 lenses and a few 2.8F "white face"
cameras were provided with Planar 2.8/80 lenses, afterwards the Xenotar 2.8/80
was also used only.
Along several years I have seen some "white faces"
cameras out of the specifications mentioned above, I think these cameras have
something strange because most of them also have other features out of specs,
i.e. a supposed "white face" 3.5F without 12/24 film counter and Planar 3.5/75
lens or a 2.8F also without
12/24 film counter and the semi-circle in the strap holders, etc., then I
suspect -only suspect- these strange cameras were "converted" into "white face"
cameras using a front cover panel spare part and they are sold like "white
face" cameras increasing their prices. I have seen some samples again this
afternoon, I'm not saying that the current seller made the modification,
perhaps he believes it's an original "white face" really, but IMO they are not
original "white faces", it's a simple assumption of course, for
example:
http://www.collectcamera.com/pagesrollei/rolleicam/28f286c.htm
The "white face" quoted above does not have 12/24 film counter, it seems to
have the Planglass holder in the camera body and the strap-holders have
semi-circles, these features are out of the original 2.8F "white face" specs,
it seems to be an older camera with newer "white face" front panel cover.
Other example, look for the item 200010295772 on eBay; this 3.5F "white face"
has Planar 3.5/75 lens and does not have 12/24 film counter and the photographs
don't show the camera body without the back to see if it is prepared to receive
the Planglass; the Planar lens and the 12/24 film counter lack are out of specs
for an original "white face" model.
Conclusion: Be careful buying a "white face" camera.-
All the best
Carlos
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