[roc-chat] Re: New 'mass launch' rules

  • From: Allen H Farrington <allen.farrington@xxxxxx>
  • To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:01:05 -0700

I've been focused on NFPA 1127 (High-Power), where the rule is not altitude 
based. I agree that the change is silly for Model Rockets.
Allen

On Apr 20, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Allen Farrington wrote:

> Well, I'll go back and review this.
> 
> Allen
> Terseness and mis-spelling courtesy of my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 20, 2012, at 7:46 PM, David Erbas-White <derbas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/20/2012 6:42 PM, Allen H Farrington wrote:
>>> 
>>> 3) Safe Launch Distance for Spectators and Participants
>>> This is the one that is being modified. There are defined distances in both 
>>> NFPA 1122 and 1127 for how far you have to be from a launch pad when you 
>>> ignite the motor. This distance ranges from 15 feet to nearly 1500 feet 
>>> depending on impulse. For complex rockets, the distances are "one impulse 
>>> level higher" if you look at the table. This works out to be about 1.5 
>>> times. Since ROC uses a range layout that allows folks to be at one set of 
>>> pads while the other are launching, we have a range layout that 
>>> accommodates these distances. (except for the aforementioned M-to-M, 2 
>>> stage, Mass Launch). In any case, the absolute maximum distance required 
>>> for any combination in CA is about 1/2 a mile (2250 ft). Other states allow 
>>> larger impulses and therefore their ranges might be larger.
>>> 
>> 
>> Allen,
>> 
>> First, a TREMENDOUS thanks for all that you and the rest of the board are 
>> doing for ROC.
>> 
>> Second, here is the exact wording of the new safety code (i.e., the wording 
>> of the change):
>> 
>> "When conducting a simultaneous launch of more than ten rockets I will 
>> observe a safe distance of 1.5 times the maximum expected altitude of any 
>> launched rocket."
>> 
>> In the course of the discussions on the NAR group, and apparently as part of 
>> NFPA as well, this DOES mean that (at least for model rockets), that rather 
>> than being 15 feet away from a launch of a single Alpha, one would have to 
>> be 1.5 times the distance of the maximum expected ALTITUDE (not the previous 
>> safety distance) for a launch of more than ten rockets.
>> 
>> Note that this would affect some of our current activities, even with some 
>> of the sparsely attended launches.  We sometimes launch the entire front row 
>> if we're getting backed up -- this rule will now prevent this from being 
>> possible (though we could launch up to ten rockets at a time).
>> 
>> David Erbas-White
>> 
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