----- Original Message ----- From: "Koch, Gerald" <gkoch02@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 7:58 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: William Mortensen's Glycin Developer > Mortensen evidently used more than one developer for his > "gamma-infinity" > method. The following formula is also cited for this > method. > > Water .................................. 750 ml > Sodium sulfite (anhy) .................. 90.0 g > Paraphenylenediamine ................... 12.0 g > Metol .................................. 7.0 g > Benzoic acid ........................... 6.0 g > Water to make .......................... 1.0 l > > Both formulas require long development times. For the > above formula this time > is required to produce sufficient contrast and for the > other formula to produce > sufficient density. > > Jerry > Compare this to DuPont Sease No.1 Water 750.0 ml Sodium Sulfite, dessicated 90.0 grams P-phenylenediamine 10.0 grams Water to make 1.0 liter This required anywhere from 12 minutes (microfilm) to 50 minutes (medium speed motion picture negative) for the various Dupont films of the time (c.1944). Speed loss varies with the film but is on the order of 4 stops. I wonder what the Benzoic acid in Mortensen's formula does. I have some memory it is a hardener but could be remembering wrong. In any case, it probably lowers the activity somewhat. I suspect either developer would produce excessive dichroic fog on modern films. IMO these formulas are more of academic interest than practical. V.B.Sease of Dupont published a series of p-Phenylenediamine formulas with different amounts of Glycin in them. No.1, above, has no Glycin. Increasing the Glycin reduces the speed loss, increases the rate of development, and increases grain. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.