[pure-silver] Re: Vinegar on the table - RE: Re: Using diluted vinegar as stop bath

  • From: Grif <kgriffit@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:16:52 -0800


Balsamic goes well on fries as well. Considering most of what passes for balsamic vinegar in eating establishments around here is really just colored up and flavored regular vinegar, doesn't do to bad on the fries. I'd expect real balsamic to be a bit much for chips.

At 12:59 PM 2/26/2011, you wrote:
I ask for malt vinegar for my fries. More places have that these days,
at least in New England.



Quoting Bogdan Karasek <BKarasek@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Hello all,

So that's what what makes Americans and Canadians different..... Vinegar  ;)

And we have asked for vinegar and there will be none on the premises
except the kind they use for salads.
Would you be able to buy white vinegar in a supermarket if you wanted
to use it for your stop bath?  I'll check the supermarket in Vegas this
spring when I load up on provisions for my trip to Death Valley.

Cheers,
Bogdan



On 26/02/2011 3:20 PM, Eric Neilsen wrote:

Very much a cultural issue. You might see it in a Fish and Chips
place, but outside of that??  Salt, pepper and sugar. Then the
sugar substitute so those looking to save a few calories. Some
regional changes and of course in restaurants that are of ethnic
flavor, Chinese, Thai, Italian you'll see the goods associated with
 those foods.  As a matter of course though, I don't think you'll
see vinegar and very many tables unless it's some bad red stuff for
 salad dressing. Better places of course will have balsamic .

Have you tried asking for it?

Eric Neilsen

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*From:*pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Bogdan
*Sent:* Saturday, February 26, 2011 12:57 PM
*To:* pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Cc:* Gerald Koch
*Subject:* [pure-silver] Re: Using diluted vinegar as stop bath

Hi,

I just checked the the ingredients label, and it is marked "5%
acetic acid per volume" , so, for papers. I'll dilute 1:1.5 (water) .

Just out of curiosity, why is it impossible to get regular white
vinegar in a restaurant in the US.   In Canada, there is always
vinegar on the table, along with salt and pepper.  in Canada, we
put vinegar on our french fries.  We've eaten in places all over
the US, and it is impossible to get vinegar to put on one's french
fries.   Is this a cultural thing, or is there a more specific
reason that I am unaware of????  I've asked  in restaurants in the
US and they look at me like I came from another planet.  Then, they
 ask me why I would want to put vinegar on my food.  The only
vinegar they would have would wine vinegar for salads.

If anybody has a answer, I'd be very interested in hearing it.
One of those things, like 'What is the meaning of life"?  42!

Cheers,
Bogdan

On 2/26/2011 1:18 PM, Gerald Koch wrote:

To use as a stop bath it must be white or distilled vinegar.  The
brown form may stain.  Check the label as it can be any percentage
from 4% to 5%  depending on the brand.  Kodak SB-1 for papers is 2%
 acetic acid, for films the percentage can be 1%.  So if you have
the 4% version dilute it with an equal amount of water for 2%.

Jerry

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*From:*Bogdan <bkarasek@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:bkarasek@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
*To:* pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Fri, February 25, 2011 2:56:37 PM
*Subject:* [pure-silver] Using diluted vinegar as stop bath

Hello all,

this was discussed a few years back, but do not remember the
details.  I have 3 gallons of kitchen vinegar and I remember it was
 mentioned that a dilution of vinegar could be used as a stop bath.
  Does anybody know what dilution of vinegar to water I should use?
  Are there any disadvantages to using diluted vinegar as opposed
to  the Indicator Stop made by the great yellow Father or Ilford's
Stop  bath?  If I do use diluted vinegar, how can I tell when I
should  dump the bath?

Cheers,
Bogdan



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