-----Original Message----- >From: Peter Badcock <peter.badcock@xxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Jan 13, 2008 5:51 PM >To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [pure-silver] Tonal gradation/smoothness in 35mm negs c.f. larger >formats > >There has been a discussion on APUG about the differences between 35mm >negatives and larger format negatives in relation to tonal gradation and >smoothness of tones (particularly in the highlights). >So all other things being equal, can somebody please tell me why I can't get >the same tonal gradation/smoothness onto a print made from a 35mm neg cf. a >larger negative of the same film, same scene, same exposure conditions, same >developer etc etc. If possible, assume grain size is small enough to be >irrelevant - i.e. keep the print smallish, say no bigger than 6-7 inches. > >Rather than pre-empt any explanations you folks come up with , I'll just >supply you with quotations for now rather than the original APUG thread (of >course you can search for it yourself, but I'd rather you thought about it >independently because I'm not satisfied with the only answer that was posted >on APUG) > > >regards >Peter > Quotes snipped... My experience is that its mostly a matter of grain. I shoot various formats up to 8x10. In general, there is a noticeable difference between 35mm negs and anything larger. Recently, I've been using 100T-Max developed in either Perceptol or Microdol-X (they are identical) full strength. This begins to give me the sort of "smoothness" I get with 2-1/4 x 2-1/4. When used full strength both developers are extra-fine-grain but have no acutance effects at all so negatives in somewhat grainier developers will often look a bit sharper: it depends partly on the quality of the lens. The comparison is to D-76 diluted 1:1. This is a medium-fine-grain developer. The T-Max negatives in either of the two fine grain developers above are nearly as fine grain is Technical Pan in Technidol with better tone rendition, much more speed (around EI-50) and no difficulties with controlling contrast. I've also tried these developers for Rollei negatives but do not find the same improvement over those processed in D-76. -- Richard Knoppow dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Los Angeles, CA, USA ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.