----- Message d'origine ----- De: Georges Giralt <georges=2Egiralt@free=2Efr> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:44:05 +0100 Sujet: [pure-silver] Re: Some good news concerning Ilford =C3=80: pure-silver@freelists=2Eorg >Hi ! >I do not think this is as good news as it seems=2E >First, the plant was sold and is leased to the new Ilford Photo company=2E T= his >will imply high running costs (as it was an old one, most of it was already >paid for) and will impair the ability of the new company to produce at >competitive prices=2E Keep in mind that the market has begun to re organize,= and >that Agfa Photo got, at least in Europe, a part of the previous Ilford marke= t >share on papers and chemicals=2E Tetenal has put its troops in the chemical >field, and the disapearing of Ilford powdered chemicals (ID 11 etc=2E=2E=2E=2E= ) will >put Ilford photo at risk=2E I even wonder what Champion manufacturing will i= mply >in term of prices on the former Ilford products=2E >Next, the marketing companies outside the UK are seeking a new owner=2E=2E=2E= =2E and are >for sale=2E What do you think of a company having no distribution path ? Wil= l it >sell ? I do not think so=2E International trade is difficult to implement, a= nd >more difficult to maintain=2E >So I _do_ hope that Ilford will be a success but the path is not paved with >flowers=2E=2E=2E > >BTW, the Freelists software sucks=2E The "rephrasing" it does for unknown re= asons >is more than annoying=2E It breaks legibility, WWW links and search engines=2E= >Wondefull ! >Regards=2E Sorry for the mess with the character codes, previous email was sent using we= stern-european (iso-8859-1), with this one, I try Unicode (utf-8) =2E=2E=2E Regarding Ilford, leasing may increase costs but the owner of the plant has n= o interests in killing the new Ilford=2E So I hope the lease fee will remain = acceptable=2E Distribution was problematic in some countries, mainly where the local distri= butor was bankrupt or near of it=2E In these countries, other manufacturers h= ave filled the gap, let's see if Ilford will regain the market share=2E Deman= d drives distribution, so if customers are loyal, they will =2E=2E=2E In others, products were not that difficult to find during all crisis' period= , this is the case here in Switzerland=2E US and Canadian distributors already announced that products are/will soon be= available as previously and that's a pretty huge market=2E Was it difficult to find Ilford products in the US this last six months ? Regarding the chemicals, the subcontractor may well do as good or even better= than Ilford itself, let's see=2E There are other companies that do not manufacture themselves and are profitab= le (Bergger and so on)=2E I'm more concerned regarding the swiss plant as, although being profitable, t= heir future is still uncertain=2E Regards, Claudio Bonavolta http://www=2Ebonavolta=2Ech ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.