Of course, neither of us are recommending using anything other than 'fresh' fixer! On 30/4/06 08:55, "Ryuji Suzuki" <rs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Christopher Woodhouse <chris.woodhouse@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: PMK and MCS > Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:36:33 +0100 > >> Unfounded....? > > Yes, I referred to a specific book that people mentioned. > > I've done testing myself and I know the advantages of neutral/alkaline > fixer, but I have to say that arguments presented in popular darkroom > book(s) is not something I can agree. > >> In addition with alkali fixers, you can go straight from fixer to >> selenium toning without issue. I noticed Selenium toner takes a nose >> dive and precipitates grey sludge after acid based fixing, unless >> extensive washing of the fixed print is undertaken first. > > I know that can be done if the fixer is relatively fresh, but I > wouldn't recommend that sequence for practical purposes, as different > kinds of stain may result when fixer is nearing exhaustion. A brief > rinse in water (15-30 sec in running water) is often enough to remove > this risk. (In case of some fiber papers and polysulfide toners, 2-5 > min wash may be necessary to avoid highlight staining.) > >> I was playing with prescysol and was trying to maximise the stain by >> using alkali stop baths, fixers and developers, but experienced >> chalky deposits on the film (I believe EDTA is the magic ingredient >> that dispels this, RS and RK will know for certain). > > I don't think there is a practical alkali stop bath. Bill Troop > described to me stop baths that contained benzotriazoles, etc., but > treating unfixed prints in such solution will make the material very > difficult to fix thoroughly. If you use bromide solution, development > may be halted in that bath, but the risk of dichroic fog may not be > removed. Like I said in my previous post, as long as excess developer > is well removed from the film, there is no need to completely arrest > development before fixation. > ============================================================================== > =============================== > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your > account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) > and unsubscribe from there. > -- Regards Chris Woodhouse .... __o .. -\<, ......(_)/(_)....................... ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.