RE: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
- From: "BRENT NEAL" <bneal@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:31:19 -0600
I agree.
I can get to my email quickly and it takes less time to go to it. I
check email often in my work anyway.
Brent Neal
140 E 300 S
Salt Lake City, UT 84111
Programmer
Phone: 801.526.9797
Email: bneal@xxxxxxxx
>>> "Michael Malver" <mmalver@xxxxxxxxx> 9/1/2011 3:52 PM >>>
Believe it or not, I like e-mail as it gives me a way to quickly
archive conversations I'm interested in. I can simply pull up a folder.
If I had to use a website, there would probably be some searching
involved. Just my $.02
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared
Wright
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:59 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
I agree, this is unsettling.
I don't know if there'd be any desire for this, but does anyone else
feel that the mailing list is sort of... well... 1999ish in its
execution? We all want to be able to discuss a wide plethora of
programming topics. But plenty of people don't want to wade through a
high traffic list. There are more evolved community formats now, from
Facebook groups and Google+ circles to full forum/wiki/community blog
implementations that could be hosted on a dedicated server. It'd allow
for people to filter the discussion they're interested in while not
having to restrict topics people can discuss, as seems to be the Catch
22 Program-L is fighting with right now. I won't set it all up on my
own. I don't care enough, straight and simple. But maybe if I'm not
running the whole show by myself this is something that could be given
some brainstorming? It won't work though unless it has at least the
beginnings of a community willing to give it a go, and we seem pretty
entrenched for some reason in the old EMail listserv.
On 9/1/2011 4:22 PM, Michael Malver wrote:
If this is true, and java is off topic, then I am totally and
completely against the merge. I’ll be damned if I’m going to join a
second e-mail list when the point of merging in the first place was to
minimize the number of lists a person would have to subscribe to.
If this is true, I hope someone will create a third list where all
things programming can be discussed freely. When that happens, hopefully
everyone will join it.
Here’s hoping the message to which I am replying is just someone
thinking out loud and not actually policy.
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
Tyler
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:11 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Fwd: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
This just came through, for those of you who aren't on the program-l
list. I know it's past the due date for our input, but I have a couple
of issues, both of which I voiced.
First, I'm kind of lost as to why Java isn't aloud to be discussed
because it's "specialized." Sure there's another list for that, but if
we're going to have "specialized" lists, why are we merging in the first
place?
Does this mean that sodbeans discussion is out? I've kind of followed
along with that, though I haven't played with it to much.
Second, I'm still curious why this is so hush-hush. I guess I'm worried
that we're going to get forced into a list that is not going to allow
some of what we have here. Sure some of it can be cleaned up, and George
is the one to do that; he's an adept moderator, but It almost sounds
like the volume of messages is going to be strictly controled for some
reason.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject:
[program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
Date:
Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:02:50 +0100
From:
George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (
mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx )
Reply-To:
program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To:
<program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ( mailto:program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx )
There's always a leak somewhere before things can be
properlyannounced, isn't there? However, it won't happen until 1st
October. Yes indeed the two specialist lists are to merge. Or rather,
theywill be merged into ours. It was either that, or the other list
couldpossibly be closed down. I have no doubt that it will initially
swell the number of dailymessages, but I'm hoping that with some
appropriate moderation, thingswill keep on topic. If not, my steel
ruler will be out rathersharpish. Needless to say JAVA will be
considered off-topic as we have a listfor that (program-java), and if
the need arises for other specialistareas, I will have no hesitation in
starting an appropriate list. Sorry you all had to find out via the
jungle drums, but please stickwith us. This has been a very
professional list to date, andhopefully long may it continue that way.
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