Re: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
- From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:37:15 -0700
well, it's somewhat academic now so...
though some expansion might be handy and useful
and a note on what trouble said about the old blind programming website, I
would have acquired and reinstated it for us, but the name was bought by one of
those "buy them all and sell them at resounding prices" sites and the dude
wants 3000 dollars for the name*sigh* as much as I would like to, I can't
afford that, if I win the lotto then... but until and unless, poof!
hmmm what would folks like to see added, facebook, twitter? a weblog, RSS?
what?
inthane
and yes, I have had my posting rights restored, I will be restoring the grab
bag site, I actually took it down in anger more on the actions of a person,
then to the lists proposed changes, I was cooling down about that
anyway onward and upward we still have our list!
take care,
inthaneelf
"do not mess in the affairs of dragons!
for you are crunchy, and go good with barbecue sauce!"
- Draconous Cerulean
----- Original Message -----
From: BRENT NEAL
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
I agree.
I can get to my email quickly and it takes less time to go to it. I check
email often in my work anyway.
Brent Neal
140 E 300 S
Salt Lake City, UT 84111
Programmer
Phone: 801.526.9797
Email: bneal@xxxxxxxx
>>> "Michael Malver" <mmalver@xxxxxxxxx> 9/1/2011 3:52 PM >>>
Believe it or not, I like e-mail as it gives me a way to quickly archive
conversations I'm interested in. I can simply pull up a folder. If I had to use
a website, there would probably be some searching involved. Just my $.02
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:59 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
I agree, this is unsettling.
I don't know if there'd be any desire for this, but does anyone else feel
that the mailing list is sort of... well... 1999ish in its execution? We all
want to be able to discuss a wide plethora of programming topics. But plenty of
people don't want to wade through a high traffic list. There are more evolved
community formats now, from Facebook groups and Google+ circles to full
forum/wiki/community blog implementations that could be hosted on a dedicated
server. It'd allow for people to filter the discussion they're interested in
while not having to restrict topics people can discuss, as seems to be the
Catch 22 Program-L is fighting with right now. I won't set it all up on my own.
I don't care enough, straight and simple. But maybe if I'm not running the
whole show by myself this is something that could be given some brainstorming?
It won't work though unless it has at least the beginnings of a community
willing to give it a go, and we seem pretty entrenched for some reason in the
old EMail listserv.
On 9/1/2011 4:22 PM, Michael Malver wrote:
If this is true, and java is off topic, then I am totally and completely
against the merge. I’ll be damned if I’m going to join a second e-mail list
when the point of merging in the first place was to minimize the number of
lists a person would have to subscribe to.
If this is true, I hope someone will create a third list where all things
programming can be discussed freely. When that happens, hopefully everyone will
join it.
Here’s hoping the message to which I am replying is just someone thinking out
loud and not actually policy.
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:11 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Fwd: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
This just came through, for those of you who aren't on the program-l list. I
know it's past the due date for our input, but I have a couple of issues, both
of which I voiced.
First, I'm kind of lost as to why Java isn't aloud to be discussed because
it's "specialized." Sure there's another list for that, but if we're going to
have "specialized" lists, why are we merging in the first place?
Does this mean that sodbeans discussion is out? I've kind of followed along
with that, though I haven't played with it to much.
Second, I'm still curious why this is so hush-hush. I guess I'm worried that
we're going to get forced into a list that is not going to allow some of what
we have here. Sure some of it can be cleaned up, and George is the one to do
that; he's an adept moderator, but It almost sounds like the volume of messages
is going to be strictly controled for some reason.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject:
[program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
Date:
Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:02:50 +0100
From:
George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To:
program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To:
<program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
There's always a leak somewhere before things can be properlyannounced, isn't
there? However, it won't happen until 1st October. Yes indeed the two
specialist lists are to merge. Or rather, theywill be merged into ours. It
was either that, or the other list couldpossibly be closed down. I have no
doubt that it will initially swell the number of dailymessages, but I'm hoping
that with some appropriate moderation, thingswill keep on topic. If not, my
steel ruler will be out rathersharpish. Needless to say JAVA will be considered
off-topic as we have a listfor that (program-java), and if the need arises for
other specialistareas, I will have no hesitation in starting an appropriate
list. Sorry you all had to find out via the jungle drums, but please stickwith
us. This has been a very professional list to date, andhopefully long may it
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