I don't care what happens, but I'd like to see -this- resource put on Jamal's site, or under the care of someone who won't destroy it when something doesn't go his way.
On 9/2/2011 4:37 PM, inthane wrote:
well, it's somewhat academic now so... though some expansion might be handy and usefuland a note on what trouble said about the old blind programming website, I would have acquired and reinstated it for us, but the name was bought by one of those "buy them all and sell them at resounding prices" sites and the dude wants 3000 dollars for the name*sigh* as much as I would like to, I can't afford that, if I win the lotto then... but until and unless, poof! hmmm what would folks like to see added, facebook, twitter? a weblog, RSS? what?inthaneand yes, I have had my posting rights restored, I will be restoring the grab bag site, I actually took it down in anger more on the actions of a person, then to the lists proposed changes, I was cooling down about thatanyway onward and upward we still have our list! take care, inthaneelf "do not mess in the affairs of dragons! for you are crunchy, and go good with barbecue sauce!" - Draconous Cerulean ----- Original Message ----- *From:* BRENT NEAL <mailto:bneal@xxxxxxxx> *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2011 4:31 PM *Subject:* RE: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists I agree.I can get to my email quickly and it takes less time to go to it. I check email often in my work anyway.Brent Neal 140 E 300 S Salt Lake City, UT 84111 Programmer Phone: 801.526.9797 Email: bneal@xxxxxxxx <mailto:bneal@xxxxxxxx> >>> "Michael Malver" <mmalver@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:mmalver@xxxxxxxxx>> 9/1/2011 3:52 PM >>> Believe it or not, I like e-mail as it gives me a way to quickly archive conversations I'm interested in. I can simply pull up a folder. If I had to use a website, there would probably be some searching involved. Just my $.02 *From:*programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Jared Wright *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:59 PM *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Subject:* Re: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists I agree, this is unsettling. I don't know if there'd be any desire for this, but does anyone else feel that the mailing list is sort of... well... 1999ish in its execution? We all want to be able to discuss a wide plethora of programming topics. But plenty of people don't want to wade through a high traffic list. There are more evolved community formats now, from Facebook groups and Google+ circles to full forum/wiki/community blog implementations that could be hosted on a dedicated server. It'd allow for people to filter the discussion they're interested in while not having to restrict topics people can discuss, as seems to be the Catch 22 Program-L is fighting with right now. I won't set it all up on my own. I don't care enough, straight and simple. But maybe if I'm not running the whole show by myself this is something that could be given some brainstorming? It won't work though unless it has at least the beginnings of a community willing to give it a go, and we seem pretty entrenched for some reason in the old EMail listserv. On 9/1/2011 4:22 PM, Michael Malver wrote: If this is true, and java is off topic, then I am totally and completely against the merge. I’ll be damned if I’m going to join a second e-mail list when the point of merging in the first place was to minimize the number of lists a person would have to subscribe to. If this is true, I hope someone will create a third list where all things programming can be discussed freely. When that happens, hopefully everyone will join it. Here’s hoping the message to which I am replying is just someone thinking out loud and not actually policy. *From:*programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Littlefield, Tyler *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:11 PM *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Subject:* Fwd: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists This just came through, for those of you who aren't on the program-l list. I know it's past the due date for our input, but I have a couple of issues, both of which I voiced. First, I'm kind of lost as to why Java isn't aloud to be discussed because it's "specialized." Sure there's another list for that, but if we're going to have "specialized" lists, why are we merging in the first place? Does this mean that sodbeans discussion is out? I've kind of followed along with that, though I haven't played with it to much. Second, I'm still curious why this is so hush-hush. I guess I'm worried that we're going to get forced into a list that is not going to allow some of what we have here. Sure some of it can be cleaned up, and George is the one to do that; he's an adept moderator, but It almost sounds like the volume of messages is going to be strictly controled for some reason. -------- Original Message -------- *Subject: * [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists *Date: * Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:02:50 +0100 *From: * George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Reply-To: * program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *To: * <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> There's always a leak somewhere before things can be properly announced, isn't there? However, it won't happen until 1st October.Yes indeed the two specialist lists are to merge. Or rather, they will be merged into ours. It was either that, or the other list could possibly be closed down.I have no doubt that it will initially swell the number of daily messages, but I'm hoping that with some appropriate moderation, things will keep on topic. If not, my steel ruler will be out rather sharpish.Needless to say JAVA will be considered off-topic as we have a list for that (program-java), and if the need arises for other specialist areas, I will have no hesitation in starting an appropriate list.Sorry you all had to find out via the jungle drums, but please stick with us. This has been a very professional list to date, and hopefully long may it continue that way.All the best,George Bell Moderator and list owner. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:**program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to **program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> with the Subject:- faq
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