Re: need a real programmer!

        Hi Inthane: I'm not sure if I am the Rick you mentioned but I remember 
your original post a little.
I am a VB.net / Sql CE or Sql Server guy for the most part. I am experienced in 
Business Apps. Now, Game production is quite diferent. 
I don't know how well suited CSharp or any of the MS languages are for the 
purpose of game creation. I am thinking of the 2 main  technicals of a game 
that is logic flow and the UI element processing.
When it comes to the logic flow that might be doable easily enough but I'm not 
at all sure about handling audio / video technicals. I would guess it would 
require Flash or Silverlight to pull off something of real quality for sighted 
people and I'm not sure about what else could be used in their place for 
quality Audio control.
I would think that those 2 technicals would be the foundation of at least the 
UI components of a game like you describe.
I haven't worked in Flash and I am still in VB.net 2008 since WindowEyes won't 
work well with UIA and not at all with WPF which is what Silverlight is all 
about. 
My guess you were talking to the other Rick I have seen on list from time to 
time but if it was me, and I will help you with your app if I can, I don't have 
the tools to develop a really killer game like I would imagine you would want 
to do to compete with other companies out there.
  Also, if you are going to go cross-platform you should keep that in mind from 
the very start of the project and select tools and skill sets accordingly. 
  Finally, if you are going to develop action games with any quality visuals 
you will, of course, need a sighted person, best a Programmer type, to design, 
test and coordinate visuals with logic flow, timing and audio and all that jazz.
  How you might use the graphics and perhaps the digitized images of real 
characters wwould be beyond what I have done and I wouldn't know how to learn 
to do that without having some vision. 
  So, if me, I'll have to back out since I don't have the skill set necessary 
for the UI portion of the gaming arena and might not be up to speed with the 
logic flow which might be some form of AI in advanced senarios.
  Now, if you need a program to track your income, handle some accounting or 
any inventory control  from those apps, well I could do that. 
  Keep posting up about your progress though since it would be pretty cool to 
be able to use those types of advanced tools to create interactive Science 
Fiction.
  Later Inthane:
  Rick USA

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: inthane 
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:54 PM
  Subject: Re: need a real programmer!


  hello again folks,

  there is a lot of things going on in my life so at times my responses 
  are going to be a bit slow to show up!

  ok, I've had responses on my original query from Roger, Q, Ramit, Mesut, 
  and a helpful hand offered from      rick

  first, Q, as I said in a personal reply to you for most of my needs, I 
  need a partner, I don't have the capital to afford to have you build 
  them and need to then sell them. though I may ask you about a private 
  program I need  in a few days(since its a personal application, its not 
  going to make money so I'm going to probably have to pay someone to 
  build it)

  roger and rick, I have one application that's more of a database 
  application that needs to be able to swiftly bring up a selected number 
  of information entries , and make run functions on said data and display 
  the results back to me quickly simply and rapidly . I'll contact you 
  about it off list OK?

  now for everyone else (that would be Ramit, Mesut, and roger if he is 
  still interested in game programming)
  you guys  asked some questions so here are my answers to the best of my 
  ability:

  Question 1. for which platform do you envisage to have these games?:
  answer: what I am aiming for, are (at first) windows based screen reader 
  friendly games that are playable by both sighted and VI folks, that will 
  go to levels that such games have been, and beyond!

  language is fairly open though I would like to keep it out of the 
  esoterics or the les flexible languages like lisp and/or working in 
  flash

  c++, C#, those would be my preferences myself, but not a requirement

  these games run the gambit from fairly simple shooter games (I have one 
  fashioned after an old arcade game that I believe folks would have a 
  blast with, I know of many a worn out arcade machine that ran it) all 
  the way up to puzzle games, semi role playing games like shades of doom 
  and lone wolf, and beyond these into full on RPG and multi player game 
  scenarios

  I used to work for a game company, games for the blind, but the owner, 
  I'll just say he had some issues that caused the company to close up 
  titer than a goblins backside, and then it disappeared from the web 
  totally after a minor try at a come back.

  I was already long gone when that happened, but I have game designs in 
  my head, that I was going to suggest to that former boss, along with 
  experience in game writing (in the pencil and paper role playing game 
  genre's  that can produce some fun, exciting and complex games.

  I also was known for, if not finding "the way" to do things, leading the 
  programmers to look at things so they could figure out how to do them, 
  as well as a knack for spotting and adding the "nice details" that were 
  missing from the games produced.

  question 2. What would be the potential of earnings can you foresee from 
  these games?:
  answer: hmmm, GMA games is still running so they must be making enough, 
  they have in fact added a game to there line that sounds very similar to 
  one of my concepts blast it! but anyway, I also remember my old 
  boss/partner saying that he had just received a check for 10,000 dollars 
  from the company he used for his online site's game purchasing payment, 
  a smaller company that was in competition with PayPal in it's early 
  days.

  so I see good potential for a profitable partnership here.

  question 3. Can you provide more info regarding games you have in mind?
  as stated above, I have things from one or two person arcade style 
  games, to multi player games (one computer or many) all the way up to 
  multi person RPG games similar to doom, Diablo, and masters of Orion

  I work just as well in science fiction, and fantasy, along with cross 
  Genre creations of current times/science fiction, current time/fantasy, 
  some with war games, so on and so forth.

  now my #4. what I am looking for is/are a partner or partners who want 
  to work together with me to create some fun games and see if we can earn 
  ourselves some elevated living capital! but without hanging ourselves 
  out to dry with our current existence!
  I would be willing to go into a simple 50/50 agreement for the first 
  simple game, and then we... would invest the income from that back into 
  the enterprise to make it legal, safe for us (I'm thinking an LLD here) 
  and then formalize the company for fun and profit.

  so, now that you have details, what do you folks think?
  inthaneelf
  inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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