Re: Screen Reader Compatibility

Hi,
NVDA has a quite large user base. the NVDA discussion email list has
around 375 subscribers, and that's just the peope who use it and the
email list. It's big and getting bigger. Also, it is free and open
source, so anyone could use it without having to fork out a fortune for
a compatable screen reader. Your school won't have to pay for a lisence
either. I must admit I am heavily partial to open source software it
doesn't matter if it is free as in "Free Beer" or not, so I would advise
NVDA before Jaws or any other Windows screen reader. If you would like
more input from the NVDA community, join the email list:
http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda
Storm


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On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 16:31 -0600, Andreas Stefik wrote:

> Do many people use NVDA? That one we could be possible, if people
> think it's important. I've heard in the past that it isn't that
> popular. Not true?
> 
> As for Hal, I'll admit my ignorance: never heard of that one. If I'm
> reading the docs online correctly, it's about 600 UK pounds. Unless
> folks think Hal is more important than the other choices, I may put
> that one down farther on the list. Before we dived in there, we might
> have to get in touch with the publisher of that one to see how we
> plugin, or if we can, or if there's a special license we have to pay.
> Then we'd have to buy it as well. Right now, I think we have licenses
> at the school for windows eyes, jaws, and voice over (which is free
> with OS X). We're open to purchasing more, though, depending on where
> they'd fit in the development schedule and the consensus amongst folks
> on how important it is.
> 
> I'll write down both though, in case we decide to tackle them.
> 
> Andreas Stefik, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Computer Science
> Southern Illinois University Edwardsville
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Storm Dragon
> <stormdragon2976@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>         I would like to include my vote for Orca. Also, for Windows,
>         instead of  any of the commercial screen readers, why not push
>         for NVDA support.
>         Storm
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>         On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 15:33 -0500, Jared Wright wrote: 
>         
>         > For the record, I think a Unix-flavored screen reader would also be 
> a 
>         > great choice. I guess I do nearly as much in Linux now as I do in 
>         > Windows, so maybe I should've started with that instead of my 
> thoughts 
>         > on the Windows side. But I digress.
>         > 
>         > Jared
>         > 
>         > On 1/23/2010 3:25 PM, Bill Cox wrote:
>         > > I'll throw out a vote for Orca next.  There seem to be a lot of
>         > > open-source blind programmers out in Linux land, and I think you 
> could
>         > > reach them best with Orca integration.  Also, Orca and 
> accessibility
>         > > in Linux seems to be advancing rapidly.  I suspect in five years,
>         > > looking back Orca will have seemed the obvious choice.
>         > >
>         > > Bill
>         > >
>         > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jared 
> Wright<wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>         > >    
>         > >> I'm definitely disappointed to see JAWS getting all the 
> attention on the
>         > >> Windows side. Personal, subjective preference aside, I think 
> most of us can
>         > >> agree that It's more expensive than Window Eyes, has an inferior 
> scripting
>         > >> implementation compared to Window Eyes, uses more system 
> resources than
>         > >> Window Eyes, and yet so many accessibility products worry about
>         > >> compatibility with JFW which translates to implicit support for 
> Freedom
>         > >> Scientific's frivolous litigation, forced Braille driver 
> signing, and other
>         > >> nonsense that serves the blind community in no useful fashion. 
> It sounds
>         > >> like you've already gotten pretty far on your roadmap for 
> Windows with JAWS
>         > >> already, so I'll say no more. Hopefully you'll revisit the 
> possibility of
>         > >> Window Eyes compatibility in the future, although I guess with 
> Window Eyes
>         > >> being more adaptable (my opinion of course) it'll be easier for 
> its users to
>         > >> adapt it to Sotbeans themselves.
>         > >>
>         > >> Jared
>         > >>
>         > >> On 1/23/2010 9:59 AM, Andreas Stefik wrote:
>         > >>      
>         > >>> Hi folks,
>         > >>>
>         > >>> We're working hard out here on screen reader compatibility on 
> the
>         > >>> Sappy/Sodbeans projects in NetBeans. We're trying to decide 
> which screen
>         > >>> readers we should make our code compatible with. We 
> realistically can't do
>         > >>> all of them in the short term and we are starting with Jaws/ 
> OSX Voice Over.
>         > >>> Once those are complete, any suggestions on what screen readers 
> the
>         > >>> community would prefer come next? Any preferences?
>         > >>>
>         > >>> We were thinking maybe a unix flavor screen reader, perhaps 
> Orca, but are
>         > >>> open to suggestions. What does the community think?
>         > >>>
>         > >>> Andreas Stefik, Ph.D.
>         > >>> Assistant Professor
>         > >>> Department of Computer Science
>         > >>> Southern Illinois University Edwardsville
>         > >>>        
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