I think the order would be: jaws/WE (about equal, though WE should be easier) NVDA SA (you can get it for a low price with a monthly subscription, or just run SAToGo) Hal I am not sure about other platforms as I am a Windows/Jaws user, though when my Jaws license runs out I may switch to WE instead. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from PC) Email: mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Andreas Stefik To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 17:31 Subject: Re: Screen Reader Compatibility Do many people use NVDA? That one we could be possible, if people think it's important. I've heard in the past that it isn't that popular. Not true? As for Hal, I'll admit my ignorance: never heard of that one. If I'm reading the docs online correctly, it's about 600 UK pounds. Unless folks think Hal is more important than the other choices, I may put that one down farther on the list. Before we dived in there, we might have to get in touch with the publisher of that one to see how we plugin, or if we can, or if there's a special license we have to pay. Then we'd have to buy it as well. Right now, I think we have licenses at the school for windows eyes, jaws, and voice over (which is free with OS X). We're open to purchasing more, though, depending on where they'd fit in the development schedule and the consensus amongst folks on how important it is. I'll write down both though, in case we decide to tackle them. Andreas Stefik, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Computer Science Southern Illinois University Edwardsville On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Storm Dragon <stormdragon2976@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I would like to include my vote for Orca. Also, for Windows, instead of any of the commercial screen readers, why not push for NVDA support. Storm -- Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 15:33 -0500, Jared Wright wrote: For the record, I think a Unix-flavored screen reader would also be a great choice. I guess I do nearly as much in Linux now as I do in Windows, so maybe I should've started with that instead of my thoughts on the Windows side. But I digress. Jared On 1/23/2010 3:25 PM, Bill Cox wrote: > I'll throw out a vote for Orca next. There seem to be a lot of > open-source blind programmers out in Linux land, and I think you could > reach them best with Orca integration. Also, Orca and accessibility > in Linux seems to be advancing rapidly. I suspect in five years, > looking back Orca will have seemed the obvious choice. > > Bill > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jared Wright<wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> I'm definitely disappointed to see JAWS getting all the attention on the >> Windows side. Personal, subjective preference aside, I think most of us can >> agree that It's more expensive than Window Eyes, has an inferior scripting >> implementation compared to Window Eyes, uses more system resources than >> Window Eyes, and yet so many accessibility products worry about >> compatibility with JFW which translates to implicit support for Freedom >> Scientific's frivolous litigation, forced Braille driver signing, and other >> nonsense that serves the blind community in no useful fashion. It sounds >> like you've already gotten pretty far on your roadmap for Windows with JAWS >> already, so I'll say no more. Hopefully you'll revisit the possibility of >> Window Eyes compatibility in the future, although I guess with Window Eyes >> being more adaptable (my opinion of course) it'll be easier for its users to >> adapt it to Sotbeans themselves. >> >> Jared >> >> On 1/23/2010 9:59 AM, Andreas Stefik wrote: >> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> We're working hard out here on screen reader compatibility on the >>> Sappy/Sodbeans projects in NetBeans. We're trying to decide which screen >>> readers we should make our code compatible with. We realistically can't do >>> all of them in the short term and we are starting with Jaws/ OSX Voice Over. >>> Once those are complete, any suggestions on what screen readers the >>> community would prefer come next? Any preferences? >>> >>> We were thinking maybe a unix flavor screen reader, perhaps Orca, but are >>> open to suggestions. What does the community think? >>> >>> Andreas Stefik, Ph.D. >>> Assistant Professor >>> Department of Computer Science >>> Southern Illinois University Edwardsville >>> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> >> > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind