Hi Mike, The reason I was asking about this is that I ran into a very good Java book. It's also a text book. It explains things very clearly, although the writing is a little too artistic for my weird learning style. I was going to point you to that book, if you happen to have a Safari account, or to the Java Tutorial, which has a whole section all about Swing. Here's the address of the Java Tutorial. http://download.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/reallybigindex.html. Jim -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:28 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Java Hi James, I write my Java code with the Sodbeans IDE developed by Dr. Andreas Stefik. I am now learning Swing using my course textbook. I compared that with online, free resources such as Introduction to Programming Using Java by David J. Eck, and found my course textbook to be the most understandable. I feel like I am getting somewhere now. Finally, while I read your post on SWT, we are not using that in class which is why I have to learn Swing. Either way, I am not having issues. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Homme, James Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 6:01 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Listbox In Python Hi Mike, How are you writing your Java code? Jim -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:15 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Listbox In Python That's alright. Thank you anyway. I will continue studying my Intro to Java Comprehensive textbook as I have. Chapter 12 has a great chapter on Swing which will be used in class. It takes the approach of using Java to code the GUI elements. It doesn't discuss dragging and dropping to build a GUI, so I can follow along with that chapter well. I might search Google and see if I can find a way for the blind to rapidly develop Swing-based GUIs. The Java II class is the only thing I'm worried about, since my professor will be using rapid development techniques so I'm kind of worried that I might get behind by coding a GUI. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Alex Hall Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 4:50 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Listbox In Python I don't use Java for gui (actually, I use Python for everything) so cannot say for sure, sorry. On 7/16/11, Mike <foxwarrior09@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Thank you for the pointer to the editor, Alex. I will look into this when > I > learn wxPython. Do you know of anything like this for Java? I take Java > II > in the fall at my college, and we will be doing a lot of GUI programming. > My professor uses the NetBeans drag and drop tool. I will use Sodbeans, > the > project developed by Dr. Andreas Stefik. > > Thanks, > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex Hall > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 3:44 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Listbox In Python > > I personally prefer code. However, wxPython comes with an editor > called XRCed which is mostly useable with jaws and lets you edit XRC > pretty easily. XRC is to a gui what css is to a website, sort of. It > basically lets you use an xml-like syntax in a .xrc file to define how > your gui looks. You then load that xrc when you want to use it with > wx. > > On 7/16/11, Mike <foxwarrior09@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Harmony, have you always built GUI applications in code, or has anyone on >> this list ever found a drag/drop tool that can be used with the keyboard >> to >> write GUI-based applications? I know that one can use JAWS scripts with >> Visual Studio to visually build Windows forms applications, but what >> about >> other languages? >> >> Thank you, >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Harmony Neil >> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:49 AM >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Listbox In Python >> >> I've made a listbox which it is possible to get to using the mouse, or >> route jaws to pc cursor, but I can't get to it just using the normal >> cursor. When I arrow up and down it just doesn't do anything. 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