Re: Java

Jim,

I do not have a Safari account, but thank you anyway. The Swing trail from The Java Tutorials can be used as a reference for Swing components, while I use my textbook Intro to Java Comprehensive for better explanations. That seems to be the approach working for me as of now. If you have any other suggestions, please feel free to share them.

Mike

-----Original Message----- From: Homme, James
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:35 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Java

Hi Mike,
The reason I was asking about this is that I ran into a very good Java book. It's also a text book. It explains things very clearly, although the writing is a little too artistic for my weird learning style. I was going to point you to that book, if you happen to have a Safari account, or to the Java Tutorial, which has a whole section all about Swing. Here's the address of the Java Tutorial. http://download.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/reallybigindex.html.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:28 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Java

Hi James,

I write my Java code with the Sodbeans IDE developed by Dr. Andreas Stefik.
I am now learning Swing using my course textbook.  I compared that with
online, free resources such as Introduction to Programming Using Java by
David J. Eck, and found my course textbook to be the most understandable.  I
feel like I am getting somewhere now.  Finally, while I read your post on
SWT, we are not using that in class which is why I have to learn Swing.
Either way, I am not having issues.

Mike

-----Original Message----- From: Homme, James
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 6:01 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Listbox In Python

Hi Mike,
How are you writing your Java code?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:15 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Listbox In Python

That's alright.  Thank you anyway.  I will continue studying my Intro to
Java Comprehensive textbook as I have.  Chapter 12 has a great chapter on
Swing which will be used in class.  It takes the approach of using Java to
code the GUI elements.  It doesn't discuss dragging and dropping to build a
GUI, so I can follow along with that chapter well.  I might search Google
and see if I can find a way for the blind to rapidly develop Swing-based
GUIs.  The Java II class is the only thing I'm worried about, since my
professor will be using rapid development techniques so I'm kind of worried
that I might get behind by coding a GUI.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Hall
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 4:50 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Listbox In Python

I don't use Java for gui (actually, I use Python for everything) so
cannot say for sure, sorry.

On 7/16/11, Mike <foxwarrior09@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you for the pointer to the editor, Alex.  I will look into this when
I
learn wxPython.  Do you know of anything like this for Java?  I take Java
II
in the fall at my college, and we will be doing a lot of GUI programming.
My professor uses the NetBeans drag and drop tool.  I will use Sodbeans,
the
project developed by Dr. Andreas Stefik.

Thanks,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Hall
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 3:44 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Listbox In Python

I personally prefer code. However, wxPython comes with an editor
called XRCed which is mostly useable with jaws and lets you edit XRC
pretty easily. XRC is to a gui what css is to a website, sort of. It
basically lets you use an xml-like syntax in a .xrc file to define how
your gui looks. You then load that xrc when you want to use it with
wx.

On 7/16/11, Mike <foxwarrior09@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Harmony, have you always built GUI applications in code, or has anyone on
this list ever found a drag/drop tool that can be used with the keyboard
to
write GUI-based applications?  I know that one can use JAWS scripts with
Visual Studio to visually build Windows forms applications, but what
about
other languages?

Thank you,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Harmony Neil
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:49 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Listbox In Python

I've made a listbox which it is possible to get to using the mouse, or
route jaws to pc cursor, but I can't get to it just using the normal
cursor. When I arrow up and down it just doesn't do anything. I know
the only thing I have in the window right now is the listbox, but
still ...
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to improve the attached file?
Thanks,
Harmony.

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