Jeff, As an informal list of people with diverse backgrounds, I'm not sure if there's a compelling reason to merge the two lists or keep them separate. I personally could go either way being also subscribed to both lists, but as a matter of curtosy, any potential mergers should have been posed as a "what if" instead of a "will". This unfortunately is how it has been taken by many. It might have also been good to get buy-in from folks who contribute to the list often (just take the top 5 posters by percentage of contributions). I just haven't seen your name around here often which might have helped as well. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind