RE: Important: Direction

  • From: Katherine Moss <Katherine.Moss@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:55:42 +0000

Thank God somebody finally said that.

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:53 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Important: Direction

I can answer that, none, its only going to cause problems and destroy a 
community

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----- Original Message -----
From: Littlefield, Tyler<mailto:tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Important: Direction

>>What is the reason for merging the lists? You said so that there is only one 
>>list for programming for the blind. I take it to be consolidation, >>then?
>JB: Yes.
My question is why? What problem exists that this is going to solve?

On 8/29/2011 12:04 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:

See comments below:



Here are a few off the top of my head: (I'm sure there are others)



How will the transition take place? Subscribe from one, unsubscribe from 
another? A true merger?



JB: We will work with FreeLists and move the users that are not on program-l to 
the new list from this list. Users shouldn't need to do anything but as stated 
things will move very slowly and constant communication will be maintained on 
the list.



How is conflict resolution handled E.G. duplicate sign-ups? What about folks 
who are already subscribed to both lists with the same address, or maybe with 
different addresses?



JB: If they have two separate addresses they will need to manually unsubscribe 
one. I don't see an easy way to determine this.



What about rules? What are the significant rule changes between this list and 
program. Does that in any way change in the new list, etc.?



JB: I will discuss this further with George but I believe his open style will 
be fine for this list but will take care of discussing this situation with him 
and post feedback to the list.



What happens with traffic? Is the list traffic going to double? Note: this is 
an exponential number scaled by percentages. In another words, you could claim 
that 15% of members post 10% of the time, but once you grow those members, then 
this number scales up quickly. The practical concern here is the fallout of 
that percentage math. For example, will 20 posts a day shoot up to 50, 60? Stay 
at 20? What?



JB: This is not something I can easily determine unfortunately.



Why wasn't this discussed on the list before the decision was just made. Jamal 
had some input, and apparently a few others, but only now, after some folks are 
threatening to leave, or are leaving, is it only getting discussed?



JB: My mistake and I will take the heat for that. Leave if you must but I think 
60 days notice is nothing more then fair.



What is the reason for merging the lists? You said so that there is only one 
list for programming for the blind. I take it to be consolidation, then?



JB: Yes.



Thanks much



Take care,

Sina











From: 
programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<mailto:[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]>
 On Behalf Of Jeff Bishop
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 1:08 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Important: Direction

Hello Everyone,

A couple of people have expressed concern about merging the two lists. I will 
review input from all list members sent from now until next Monday.

Send your feedback now and I will give everyone an update next Tuesday morning.

Jeff Bishop




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Take care,

Ty

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