RE: Important: Direction
- From: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:02:59 -0700
For the record here I think I have clearly stated my opinion here. I would
like to see one list with everyone contributing. Until now I have yet to see
some real constructive feedback as to why this would not be a good idea. I
think both communities have a lot to offer and from the majority of comments
I have seen list members agree with that. I would hate to see a very few
dictate the direction the overall community on the lists likes.
I am still gathering opinions and am glad to discuss them in a polite and
professional/adult manner. Emotional outbursts mixed with colorful language
doesn't make good points in the discussion.
Hoping for more constructive feedback.
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:56 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Important: Direction
Thank God somebody finally said that.
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:53 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Important: Direction
I can answer that, none, its only going to cause problems and destroy a
community
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----- Original Message -----
From: Littlefield, Tyler <mailto:tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Important: Direction
>>What is the reason for merging the lists? You said so that there is only
one list for programming for the blind. I take it to be consolidation,
>>then?
>JB: Yes.
My question is why? What problem exists that this is going to solve?
On 8/29/2011 12:04 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:
See comments below:
Here are a few off the top of my head: (I'm sure there are others)
How will the transition take place? Subscribe from one, unsubscribe from
another? A true merger?
JB: We will work with FreeLists and move the users that are not on program-l
to the new list from this list. Users shouldn't need to do anything but as
stated things will move very slowly and constant communication will be
maintained on the list.
How is conflict resolution handled E.G. duplicate sign-ups? What about folks
who are already subscribed to both lists with the same address, or maybe
with different addresses?
JB: If they have two separate addresses they will need to manually
unsubscribe one. I don't see an easy way to determine this.
What about rules? What are the significant rule changes between this list
and program. Does that in any way change in the new list, etc.?
JB: I will discuss this further with George but I believe his open style
will be fine for this list but will take care of discussing this situation
with him and post feedback to the list.
What happens with traffic? Is the list traffic going to double? Note: this
is an exponential number scaled by percentages. In another words, you could
claim that 15% of members post 10% of the time, but once you grow those
members, then this number scales up quickly. The practical concern here is
the fallout of that percentage math. For example, will 20 posts a day shoot
up to 50, 60? Stay at 20? What?
JB: This is not something I can easily determine unfortunately.
Why wasn't this discussed on the list before the decision was just made.
Jamal had some input, and apparently a few others, but only now, after some
folks are threatening to leave, or are leaving, is it only getting
discussed?
JB: My mistake and I will take the heat for that. Leave if you must but I
think 60 days notice is nothing more then fair.
What is the reason for merging the lists? You said so that there is only one
list for programming for the blind. I take it to be consolidation, then?
JB: Yes.
Thanks much
Take care,
Sina
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Bishop
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 1:08 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Important: Direction
Hello Everyone,
A couple of people have expressed concern about merging the two lists. I
will review input from all list members sent from now until next Monday.
Send your feedback now and I will give everyone an update next Tuesday
morning.
Jeff Bishop
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