RE: C# express
- From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 08:26:37 -0400
Hi Laura,
Did you install the JAWS scripts for the thing?
Thanks.
Jim
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-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:03 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: C# express
Well, it isn't exactly like what you say. When I "tab around" I get
nothing, unless I use the jaws cursor; then I find the word "Ready".
I never did get jaws hotkey to speak title bar to work, even just after
opening C#express. I open it maximized -- hope that's ok.
However, after I open the new project, I arrowed around and discovered that
the list of templates was horizontal rather than vertical. Mea culpa.
Can't ever assume anything about the layout of a GUI.
I found ConsoleApplication, and clicked on it, and indeed I got a screen
full of code. Progress!
Now the next step is to get the rest of the IDE to work, without jaws
scripts, or even better, get the right jaws scripts installed.
Any pointers on compilation, reading errors and debugging are welcome.
Where on the screen are the results put? -- the diagnostics, program output
for console app, the debugging info, etc.
I've been watching people on list do this for years and know it is not hard;
I just need to get the interface under my belt.
Thanks in advance for any pointers.
I have been awake for 24 hours and am going to take a nap. Maybe when I
wake up I'll get the bulk of this stuff conquored.
Happy hacking.
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: "RicksPlace" <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: C# express
OK, hmmm. Lets try this. Close up CSharp all together. Then open it again.
This time first, before you do anything else, read the title of the Window
that comes up using your JAWS Hot Keys and make a note of it for me. It
Should be called the Start Page. Just tab around this window and tell me if
you hear a ListView, a couple of buttons and 2 or 3 Drop?Down boxes with
stuff from Microsoft in them - they are news items and help stuff from
Microsoft. If you are indeed on the Start Page. Open the Menu Bar, cursor
down to the item labeled New Project and click it instead of using the hot
key combination you used. Now, tab around that window to see if you hear the
ListView with the Templates, the TextBox with a place to enter a name and
the OK and Cancel buttons. If not then bring up the Menu Bar again, cursor
to the View menu item, cursor up or down to the item labeled Full Screen and
click it. Then tab around the page again to see if you hear the items I
mentioned. One more thing, just bring up the Menu Bar then tab around, if
you hear an item at the root level named Full Screen click it too since
there are 2 levels of Full Screen available sometimes. Try these things and
let me know what happens.
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: C# express
> Rick, I tried that -- repeatedly. Jaws does not land on anything when I
> tab
> around. I go to the file menu and hit new project, expecting to get a
> screen with a list of templates like the tutorial says, but I get a single
> selection -- windows something or other template and a search box. So I
> search for ConsoleApplication, which is supposed to be a template
> according
> to the tutorial, and I find it all right, but instead of a code template,
> I
> get a help entry describing consoleApplication.
> In short, when I say control+shift+n to create a new project, all I get is
> help text.
> So where's the code?
> And where's that long list of templates?
>
> Also, i noticed that some jaws commands are disabled inside C#express.
> For
> one thing, insert+t doesn't read the title bar. I also tried routing to
> jaws cursor and arrowing around the screen a bit but still didn't find
> anything.
>
> Anyway, suggestions are welcome.
> Thanks.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RicksPlace" <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:39 AM
> Subject: Re: C# express
>
>
> Hi: I am working in VB.net 2008 but 2005 IDEs are almost identical for the
> Express Modules. here is the process:
> Open the IDE and you should be in the Start Page. Tabbing around you will
> hear a couple of buttons and several DropDown lists. and a ListView where
> your project names will appear after you create them. Later, after you
> create a project or two, In that Listview you will be able to click on a
> project to open it to work on but it might be empty if you have not
> created
> a project yet. Anyway, bring up the File Menu and click New Project.TheNew
> Project Dialog Window comes up. Tabbing around this window you should
> hear a ListView or other ListBox where the templates are held, a TextBox
> labeled Name where you can type or ReName any of the templates you
> highlight
> with the cursor, The OK and Cancel Buttons, and a LargeIcons Button. Now I
> am running VB.net 2008 but the IDEs are almost identical to the 2005
> version. Your list of templates might be a little diferent but in vb.net
> 2008 the templates are: Windows Forms Application,Class Library, WPF
> Application,WPF Browser Application, Console Application andSearch Online.
> You want to tab to the ListView and then use the left right up and down
> cursor keys to move around inside this box to highlight the entry for
> Console Application.Then tab to the name box which will likely be
> something
> like ConsoleApplication1 and change it to a name of your choice. Finally
> tab
> to the OK button and click it to create the project.
> Rick USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "bprogramming" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:16 AM
> Subject: C# express
>
>
>> Greetings all --
>> Ok, I have read parts of the C# documentation and a tutorial and am
>> trying
>> to get C# express to build the example in the tutorial I am in, but the
>> GUI
>> is not behaving like it says in the docs. It's strange, but parts of the
>> tutorial refer to C# express 2005, and I have 2008, but splashed through
>> the
>> tutorial are ads for downloading C# 2010. The tutorial has a link to a
>> page
>> that supposedly contains all the samples in the documentation, so I went
>> there, but IE locked up.
>>
>> I just have one question: I run C# express and get the main window, then
>> select "new" from the file menu to create a new project -- so far so
>> good.
>> The instructions then claim I can select a template from a template list,
>> but I am not in a template list; I appear to be in a search window. So I
>> type ConsoleApplication to find that template. It finds 2 matches, but
>> does
>> not bring up code -- it takes me to a help file. I close the
>> documentation
>> window and I'm back where I started -- no template, no code, and no place
>> to
>> name my project.
>>
>> So this is a GUI question rather than a programming question: How do I
>> get
>> this software to work?
>> Thanx!
>> --le
>>
>>
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