Re: C# express

  • From: "RicksPlace" <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 06:06:14 -0400

OK, hmmm. Lets try this. Close up CSharp all together. Then open it again. This time first, before you do anything else, read the title of the Window that comes up using your JAWS Hot Keys and make a note of it for me. It Should be called the Start Page. Just tab around this window and tell me if you hear a ListView, a couple of buttons and 2 or 3 Drop?Down boxes with stuff from Microsoft in them - they are news items and help stuff from Microsoft. If you are indeed on the Start Page. Open the Menu Bar, cursor down to the item labeled New Project and click it instead of using the hot key combination you used. Now, tab around that window to see if you hear the ListView with the Templates, the TextBox with a place to enter a name and the OK and Cancel buttons. If not then bring up the Menu Bar again, cursor to the View menu item, cursor up or down to the item labeled Full Screen and click it. Then tab around the page again to see if you hear the items I mentioned. One more thing, just bring up the Menu Bar then tab around, if you hear an item at the root level named Full Screen click it too since there are 2 levels of Full Screen available sometimes. Try these things and let me know what happens.

Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: C# express


Rick, I tried that -- repeatedly. Jaws does not land on anything when I tab
around.  I go to the file menu and hit new project, expecting to get a
screen with a list of templates like the tutorial says, but I get a single
selection -- windows something or other template and a search box. So I
search for ConsoleApplication, which is supposed to be a template according to the tutorial, and I find it all right, but instead of a code template, I
get a help entry describing consoleApplication.
In short, when I say control+shift+n to create a new project, all I get is
help text.
So where's the code?
And where's that long list of templates?

Also, i noticed that some jaws commands are disabled inside C#express. For
one thing, insert+t doesn't read the title bar.  I also tried routing to
jaws cursor and arrowing around the screen a bit but still didn't find
anything.

Anyway, suggestions are welcome.
Thanks.
--le

----- Original Message ----- From: "RicksPlace" <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: C# express


Hi: I am working in VB.net 2008 but 2005 IDEs are almost identical for the
Express Modules. here is the process:
Open the IDE and you should be in the Start Page. Tabbing around you will
hear a couple of buttons and several DropDown lists.  and a ListView where
your project names will appear after you create them. Later, after you
create a project or two, In that Listview you will be able to click on a
project to open it to work on but it might be empty if you have not created
a project yet. Anyway, bring up the File Menu and click New Project.TheNew
Project Dialog Window comes up.    Tabbing around this window you should
hear a ListView or other ListBox where the templates are held, a TextBox
labeled Name where you can type or ReName any of the templates you highlight
with the cursor, The OK and Cancel Buttons, and a LargeIcons Button. Now I
am running VB.net 2008 but the IDEs are almost identical to the 2005
version. Your  list of templates might be a little diferent but in vb.net
2008 the templates are: Windows Forms Application,Class Library, WPF
Application,WPF Browser Application, Console Application andSearch Online.
You want to tab to the ListView and then use the left right up and down
cursor keys to move around inside this box to highlight the entry for
Console Application.Then tab to the name box which will likely be something like ConsoleApplication1 and change it to a name of your choice. Finally tab
to the OK button and click it to create the project.
Rick USA

----- Original Message ----- From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "bprogramming" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:16 AM
Subject: C# express


Greetings all --
Ok, I have read parts of the C# documentation and a tutorial and am trying
to get C# express to build the example in the tutorial I am in, but the
GUI
is not behaving like it says in the docs.  It's strange, but parts of the
tutorial refer to C# express 2005, and I have 2008, but splashed through
the
tutorial are ads for downloading C# 2010.  The tutorial has a link to a
page
that supposedly contains all the samples in the documentation, so I went
there, but IE locked up.

I just have one question: I run C# express and get the main window, then
select "new" from the file menu to create a new project -- so far so good.
The instructions then claim I can select a template from a template list,
but I am not in a template list; I appear to be in a search window.  So I
type ConsoleApplication to find that template.  It finds 2 matches, but
does
not bring up code -- it takes me to a help file.  I close the
documentation
window and I'm back where I started -- no template, no code, and no place
to
name my project.

So this is a GUI question rather than a programming question:  How do I
get
this software to work?
Thanx!
--le



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