Larry you need to download the cd iso only, the link is here http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gparted/gparted-livecd-0.3.4-11.iso?modtime=1197927842&big_mirror=0. You can use the cd iso to make the usb drive application as well. The tar files can be read by any good compression tool in windows, I use Tugzip which is also free http://www.tugzip.com/downloads.html Peter Kaulback LarryB wrote: > Peter, I just tried to download that program and can't seem to get > things to work. It is a tar file and M$ does not know what to do with > it. Neither do I. > I read their material but didn't learn how to get the download to a CD etc. > Can you explain? > Thanks > LarryB > K & L Electronics > South Carolina > > LarryB wrote: > Thanks for the info Peter. > I ordered Acronis and my understanding is that I can use it only on one > of my computers! I do not agree with that especially when I use it only > at home. Anyway we'll see. > > LarryB > K & L Electronics > South Carolina > > Peter Kaulback wrote: > NTFS began with NT 3.1 in 1993. > > I use GParted, the Gnome Partition Editor > http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ and it is free. It boots from a cd or a > usb drive. > > It is a great tool! > > Peter Kaulback > > Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin-OrpheusComputing. com & > ComputersCustomBuilt. com wrote: > > That's ridiculous. Win2k I think and later uses NTFS. Plus > I'm sure more I don't know about. Like I said, too good to be > true. Keep looking, I'm sure there's some free ones out there, > or at least a trial that will let you use it for a while. Good > enough for what you want. > -Clint > > God Bless > Clint Hamilton, Owner > http://www.OrpheusComputing.com > http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LarryB" > > > Unfortunately, I found out that program does not handle NTFS so > would not be recommended. http://partitionlogic.org.uk/ > > Again sorry about the footers, I answered Hughes email from > bell south instead of my Thunderbird. (excuse 127 ha) > > I guess I was comparing a fresh install vs a repair. So far I > have only done the repair function. I was unsure of the fresh install as > it always asked about the formatting or partitions. > > I had trouble with that link as it would not copy into my email > for some reason so I put it in my self. > > LarryB > K & L Electronics > South Carolina > > Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin-OrpheusComputing. com & > ComputersCustomBuilt. com wrote: > Well that is a fresh install. When a partition is deleted and > recreated, or if you tell XP to install XP over that partition, > that's new. > > I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but any decent disk imaging > has its own OS so-to-speak. It's sort of a pseudo-DOS thing > that runs before the OS is loaded and that's when the imaging > or restoring is done. Some also have options to do it in > Windows, but that's not recommended. Norton's Ghost calls > theirs PC-DOS. These are still dependent upon an OS, meaning > if you're running Linux maybe or some strange OS, they have to > support it in order for you to install it. But if you mean > they are not dependent meaning they can do their imaging and > restoration outside of the OS, correct. That one you mention > appears to be different, in that it's never really installed. > Interesting. Looks too good to be true. (I fixed the link in > your email so it would be clickable). > -Clint > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LarryB" > > So bottom line is that a fresh install is best. > > I just found Partition Logic which is free and stand alone. ie > you put > an image on disk and it has its' own OS therefore not dependant > on M$ or > any other OS. I'm going to try it. > > I will put another partition on my HD and then install a fresh > XP on > that partition. Perhaps after it is working I will delete the > original > OS partition. > > You can view this software if interested at > http://partitionlogic.org.uk/ > > > > LarryB > K & L Electronics > South Carolina > > Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin-OrpheusComputing. com & > ComputersCustomBuilt. com wrote: > "If you only have one small partition where the OS is > installed, and you want to install XP over that, you > can."...... but of course everything on it will be deleted. The > "reinstall" of XP, doesn't work. At least it's NOT just a > reinstall. It wipes the drive or the partition, contrary to > what M$ said about it. I found that out the hard way. > -Clint > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > If you only have one small partition where the OS is installed, > and you want to install XP over that, you can. Something other > than that, you'll have to wait for more replies. ;-) Yes, if > you only have one partition and if you delete that partition, > then everything on that partition will be deleted. > > There's probably some free partition programs out there if you > look. Or at least some that can be used free for a certain > period of time. > -Clint > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LarryB" > > > On the backup part I would ask if it also backs up the OS. > Problem is you can't see what is in the backup without > restoring it. > > I believe I only have one small partition where the OS is > installed. I > was just > concerned that I would delete all on the drive if I deleted the > partition and then remade it. > > I'll look into getting a partitioning program and hope I can > use it ok. > Thanks as always Clint > > LarryB > K & L Electronics > South Carolina > > Clint Hamilton wrote: > > I've never tried it, but from the sound of it I believe that > "Backup" under System Tools will backup EVERYTHING. "All > information on this computer". This is in the basic mode. You > can go to Advanced mode and "Backup wizard" and "Backup > everything on this computer". > > As to if "creating a new partition" will delete everything, I > can't say for sure because every time I've done that I didn't > want to save anything, but reformat. Since nothing was saved > from the previous install, obviously I can conclude from that > it deletes the drive. However, this was because I chose to > create new partitions. But I believe you can create a new > partition then install XP on that new partition, but that's > iffy because it has to move all the data on the drive to make > the room for the new partition. Something like that is best > done with a partitioning program. > > Again, I've never tried to do any of that so I can't answer > that part for sure. Now that I remember, I have in the past > deleted the Windows partition directory and started over on > that C: partition and my other partitions were intact. I had > the main C: Windows partition and a storage partition--which > remained untouched. I don't know if that's exactly what you > want because I don't know if you want to save files on the C: > area or another. > -Clint > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LarryB" > > I notice that when you put your disk in for XP you have > choices. One is > to repair and another is to install a fresh copy. > > My questions are when you do a fresh copy you are asked to make > a > partition. > Does that delete all files on you hd? > Is there anyway to install a fresh copy without deleting the > files on > the hd? > I have made a backup of all my data files with the M$ backup > utility on > the computer so I'm not worried about that. It is just > reinstalling > programs that I really do not want to do. ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. To unsubscribe, subscribe, set Digest or Vacation to on or off, go to //www.freelists.org/list/pcworks . You can also send an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with Unsubscribe in the subject line. Your member list settings can be found at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=pcworks . Once logged in, you have access to numerous other email options. 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