Well how silly of you to say this. I'm surprised "this" got posted! Very snide to say the least and unnecessary. Man talk about after the fact! Pen ------------------------------------------------------------ I am amazed that 'BOTH' group moderators let off topic stuff go so long .......... Good intentions not-withstanding........ Do you supose they were counting time for their posts? Maybe even an RV or two? J. Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.