I hope you all don't mind me mentioning this. This is the pchelpers group with help for computers. Not every member here is a Witness. I think we need to take this discussion to private e-mail. We do not want to step on any toes here 8-) Thank you for your consideration on this matter. Pc Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.