I should perhaps have suggested that I work for an Auditing organisation, and indeed in a former life was an auditor. Back then of course the auditor's line was - senior management can almost always pull the wool over our eyes, don't rely on us to detect fraud. This had merit and wasn't just buck passing. -- Niall Litchfield Oracle DBA http://www.niall.litchfield.dial.pipex.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------