RE: Why is Oracle unaffordable?
- From: "Goulet, Richard" <Richard.Goulet@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <kjped1313@xxxxxxxxx>, <passionate_programmer@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:39:40 -0500
Kellyn,
Hear Hear. But as my boss says, anyone can run setup.
No, don't drink the Microsoft Kool-Aid.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kellyn Pedersen
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:56 PM
To: passionate_programmer@xxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Why is Oracle unaffordable?
I'm going to throw a little twist into this discussion. As much as
people complain about the need for a GUI and the "why or why Oracle must
be made so complicated", I'm a multi-platform DBA that consistently goes
into shops as an Oracle DBA who ends up doing major overhauls on SQL
Servers and MySQL db's because they are so easily designed to be
installed and configured by anyone. This results in the databases being
installed and configured WRONG and in turn, performing poorly. When
someone comes to me with the blanket statement, "SQL Server and MySQL
just can't stand up to 24X7 database requirements" I laugh. It's not
the database platform that failed the requirements, it's the person that
installed it and the database design.
This will most likely get everyone in a more heated battle than anything
else when I say this- I have created SQL Server environments with web
properties that can out perform Oracle for the same purpose and
function. Before I was brought in to tune them, they ran like dogs
though. They weren't properly designed, properly configured, tuned or
installed. This takes time and expertise and Microsoft has made it way
to easy for just anyone to create a SQL Server db.
In my current shop we have a MySQL db farm that was designed by one of
my fellow DBA's that recently replaced a massive Oracle environment due
to cost constraints. This time it was the Oracle database that was
installed and configured by a novice. It was a nightmare and the MySQL
db's are kicked butt and taking names right now vs. what Oracle was able
to do for the requirements of this application...
I truly believe this is because it was built by someone who is a DBA,
who knows his/her craft. Databases shouldn't be easy to install and
configure for anyone. They should require expertise and this leads us
to the answer to your question about Oracle being unaffordable:
Because in the end, you get what you paid for... :)
Kellyn Pedersen
Sr. Database Administrator
http://www.linkedin.com/in/kellynpedersen
www.dbakevlar.com <http://www.dbakevlar.blogspot.com/>
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From: RP Khare <passionate_programmer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 2:31:07 AM
Subject: Why is Oracle unaffordable?
Hi,
I don't want to initiate a religious war. I have been using MySQL since
last two years in production environment. I used SQL Server Express and
Oracle Express before. I have no complaints with either of the
databases, except that Oracle is over expensive and the architecture is
unnecessarily complicated. I want to know whether the complexity of the
Oracle architecture and its ever demanding need for a dedicated DBA is
worth paying or not. If you are an Oracle disciple, I don't want to
hurt you and my views here are totally unbiased.
I need an embedded database for a shrink-wrapped application. I looked
around for the alternatives. I read about SQL Server CE, SQL Anywhere
and BerkleyDB. I want to try BerkleyDB, but the prices are too high. You
could afford and enterprise class IBM DB2 or Sybase Adaptive Server or
SQL Server with a far lesser amount.
Oracle is a good product but it is beyond the reach of customers other
than big giants who pump in too much money just to keep those DBAs
happy, who sit around that black dump command line screen. Why it can't
be GUI and simple and affordable?
...............
Rohit.
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