RE: OT - Getting fired for database oops

  • From: "Goulet, Richard" <Richard.Goulet@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <mathias.magnusson@xxxxxxxxx>, <George.Johnson@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:16:27 -0400

Matt,
 
    I spent 15 years working for an institution that ran under the
premise:
 
    " To err is human, to forgive divine, neither of which is SAC
policy."
 
    Now mind you it wasn't money that we were concerned with, but lives.
 
    And for those of you too young to remember or from a foreign country
to the US, SAC was the Strategic Air Command of the USAF, the Nuclear
armed portion.
 

Dick Goulet 
Senior Oracle DBA 
PAREXEL International 

 

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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mathias Magnusson
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:05 PM
To: George.Johnson@xxxxxxx
Cc: cjnewman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: OT - Getting fired for database oops


Maybe the moral could also be to not fire people while being angry,
upset, and stressed out. I'm sure an organization that operates under
the assumption that a mistake is a fireable offence does't run very
well.  

From this story I'm pretty sure I'd have gone home and posted my resume
the very day I heard how he had treated a coworker. I would not want to
work for that manager any longer than it took me to land a new job.

Settling usually means that money is payed. I bet the company ended up
paying...

Mathias


On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Johnson, George
<George.Johnson@xxxxxxx> wrote:


        My entire team got a very rude wake up call to ensure we paid
        attention when we were working. Usual stuff , we used to refresh
a test
        DB from prod every night. Something went wrong one day, the
oncall
        admin, while cleaning up what he thought was test, managed to
wipe prod.
        So he called the DBA manager....
        
           The DBA manager fired him over the phone there and then and
told him
        to not bother coming into work the next day. As a final insult,
the
        manager demanded that this guy call the next admin out to fix
the
        problem! If he refused, the DBA manager threatened to have the
company
        take him to court for willful destruction of company
information. I
        think the admin who got fired, attempted to take the company to
court
        for wrongful dismissal but failed as he had made a major mistake
that
        was deemed to have threatened the company financially. It all
got very
        sticky, but both parties finally settled on some agreement to
which we
        were not privy.
        
           Moral as always, check, check again, breathe 5 times, check
again, 5
        more breaths, check once more....then push the RETURN key.
        


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        From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        
        [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Newman,
Christopher
        Sent: 15 May 2009 16:39
        To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        
        Subject: OT - Getting fired for database oops
        
        A colleague and I were just discussing DBA's getting fired for
screwing
        something up/failing to do something (Not for being generally
poor
        employees like showing up late, etc).  Neither of us had heard
any
        stories of either scenario.  I know we sometimes have slightly
off topic
        discussions on the list, so I was wondering if anyone would
share any
        stories.
        
        Chris Newman
        Database Specialist
        AITS, University of Illinois
        217-333-5429
        
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