[optimal] Re: Spectralis
- From: Jef Jodell <mpscra@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:08:45 -0700 (PDT)
I assume that was meant in jest? I certainly intended no offense to anyone. Men
on average do have lower voices, that is not good or bad, just one of the
differences between genders. I do not have children, and a crying child gets my
attention much quicker than people I know who have children. I am not
suggesting
anything anti-children, it is their first way communicating, and valuable for
them to get attention should they be hurt, etc. Apologies to anyone I could
have
somehow offended unintentionally.
"Shrill" is a legitimate term commonly used to describe perceptions of
tones/pitch. My point was that hearing damage happens from extremely loud (well
over 100 db) single noises such as gun fire, or from long term exposure to
constant sounds, such as people experience from loud factories where machines
may run constantly for entire shifts. The fact that the 4KHz pitch of the
Spectralis gets our attention is due to it is in the upper mid-range, where we
are very sensitive. As for say a vacuum, which housekeepers use intermittently
(much like Spectralis users) hours each day, is generally around 60-70 dbs,
louder than the Spectralis, though a lower frequency. These volume levels are
not really a concern for hearing protection, particularly as it is turned on
and
off during even busy days.
-j
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From: Ethan Priel <prieleye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 11:52:21 AM
Subject: [optimal] Re: Spectralis
Yes, you know your audio, and you also skirted a potentially sticky PC
issue…not
to mention the children's rights activists.
E
From:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jef Jodell
Sent: 17 July, 2011 23:49
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optimal] Re: Spectralis
The issue is both dbs and frequency. The frequency is 4000 Hertz (4Kz). Human
hearing goes from 20 H to 20Kz. We are most sensitive to 1K Hz, just as we are
most sensitive to green in light wavelengths. Human voices (male) tend to be
centered around 800-1000Hz, and easy to hear. Women's voices are slightly
higher, generally speaking, but around 4KHz is what we start to consider
"shrill", as in a child crying. You get used to it. Only repeated constant
exposure (sitting at it "on" for hours at a time) could cause any issue, and it
would take decades to cause a problem.
I know my audio.
-j
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From:"blutmancra@xxxxxxxxxxx" <blutmancra@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 10:25:41 AM
Subject: [optimal] Re: Spectralis
When I started to work with heidelberg systems it was annoying but you get use
to it. Health end of it I really won't know. I figure heidelberg sells the
product is not to harm operators or patient hearing.
I guess you have to research to see if there was any complaints of hearing loss
etc. Maybe there should be a study started.
Brian Lutman,CRA
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From: Raymond Mok <raywmok@xxxxxxxxx>
Sender: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:14:09 -0400
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Cc: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [optimal] Re: Spectralis
Our office have just installed the Spectralis. I'd noticed the high pitched
noise but didn't bothered much. However one of the tech said as soon as we
click
the "yellow" icon, the high pitched sound gave her spitting headache. I agree
the high pitched sound is in the safety zone but does bothered some people.
Ray MokCRA, COMT
Ophthalmic Photographer
DHMC-Ophthalmology
On Jul 16, 2011, at 8:21 PM, Ray Gardner <raygardner99@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No I've got four and about to have six in my office. The Spectralis has a sound
like that of a hearing aid whining but causes no hearing problems. Its just
annoying at first then after a while you seem not to notice it any more. The
HRA
was much loader and gave off a lot of heat. Thing of the Spectralis as the
Ferrari of cameras it has a strange sound but runs and does like no other
camera
can. If you need any help you can call me. (806) 676-9793
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>On Jul 16, 2011, at 4:06 PM, robertsantora <rbsantora@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>To All,
>>
>>Is there any concerns about the high pitched frequency sound from the
>>Spectralis
>>causing potential harm? I have suggested discreet protective ear wear by
>>anyone
>>that is uncomfortable around the sound. I was asked by our docs to start a
>>thread to see how other offices are addressing this. Thanks
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