Pegggy, I usually use the regular lens although I have a CRT lens; I have an LCD display on both the laptop and desktop. I sent a note to this list a few months ago in which I described rebuilding my laptop's Windows system from the ground up, and having to install numerous drivers to get the video, audio and other components of the machine to function. For all this, I was able to use the regular optacon lens; needless to say, it took hours, but it worked in the end. Mary To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.