Tracy and list, I've used the optacon to read these images also; you just have to explore the screen with the optacon to figure out the format, and find the parts of the text that Jaws can see; then you use these as clues to find the location of the image. Some images are hard to read though because they look like handwriting, but sometimes it's not very readable handwriting. Mary To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.