OK, got it - my mistake. >-----Original Message----- >From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Craig Birkmaier >Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:39 AM >To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [opendtv] Re: Global warming - was A Station Group with a >Future > > >At 1:55 PM -0800 2/12/07, Dale Kelly wrote: >>I wrote >>> What disappoints me most is that this is treated very much like >>> a religious issue. However, I tend to trust the very large body >>> of scientists who see evidence from which they conclude that CO2 >>> is causing a problem - enough said. >> >>Craig wrote: >>> We agree that this is a "religious issue." >> >>Bert wrote: >>> The problem with that comment, Dale, is that no one in this thread ever >>> mentioned any "intelligent design." >> >>Your correct that "intelligent design" was not specifically >mentioned but it >>was certainly implied by Craig, IMO. > >Actually that was not my intent, nor do i take a position with >respect to intelligent design, God, et al. > >Religious systems all rely upon a very powerful belief system based >in FAITH. I cannot answer the ultimate question of how matter was >created, and how it has reached its current stage of evolution. I >have no problem with those who give credit to God and allow their >faith in God to answer the ultimate question of creation. Likewise, I >have no problem with those who have faith in "science" and believe >that matter just exists and has evolved into its present form. > >The reason I called Global Warming a religious issue is that the >movement seems to have the same traits as other forms of organized >religion. In many, perhaps not all cases, the most fervent >evangelists for Global Warming are ALSO secular in their religious >beliefs - in other words, they may be substituting a belief in Global >Warming for a belief in God. > >At the heart of this new religion, is blind faith in the "consensus" >of the believers. The scientific method is ignored - in its place is >the notion that there is compelling evidence to support their faith. > >I cannot tell you how many "discussions" I have had with the >followers of this religion. When I note some of the facts that are in >dispute, they simply ignore them, and try to de-legitimize the >source. I might as well be talking to Pat Robertson about his >"predictions." > >here is a story about an MIT professor who delivered a speech on this >subject - unfortunately I cannot find a link to his speech. > >Climate Alarmism: The Misuse of 'Science > >http://www.cdfe.org/global_warming_religion.htm > >Regards >Craig > > > > >http://www.cdfe.org/global_warming_religion.htm > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > >- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration >settings at FreeLists.org > >- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the >word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.