[ola] Re: rubrics, please

  • From: Dana Karin <dana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ola@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:39:48 -0600

Hi Caleb!

I would LOVE to talk to your contact in North Carolina - our school has
that kind of flexibility.

Does she do any OLA work?

D


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Caleb Zilmer <caleb_zilmer@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> I met a lady from North Carolina at the ACTFL conference whose school had
> completely replaced their grading system with ACTFL proficiency levels.
> Their classes are called NM, NH, IL, etc. It sounds like a pretty cool
> system. If anyone's admin/school wants to take on such a system, you
> wouldn't have to start from scratch, reinvent the wheel. For anyone
> interested, I could find her contact info and send it to you. She was very
> willing to talk about their system.
>
> I agree with Arnold, any combination of letter grades and proficiency is a
> difficult fit, at best. That being said, we do it...and it sucks. There are
> always sacrifices, and they usually falter on the proficiency end of the
> bargain. But it's still better than continuing to use a grading system
> completely devoid of a reflection of actual ability.
>
> Enviado desde el iPhone de Caleb Zilmer
>
> El 12/03/2013, a las 19:09, Arnold Bleicher <arnoldb@xxxxxxxx> escribió:
>
> Harris – mixing grades with performance is dicey. Explain to me, as a
> parent of a kid who meets the goal for the class, why she gets a B. You set
> a goal, she met it. Also, I really hesitate to mix performance standards
> with grades. This muddies the waters. I want to move away from grades and
> whenever we start moving in the direction of performance standards, the
> first thing admins want to do is bring the discussion of grades into the
> mix. This is apples and oranges. You want to assign grades based on X,Y,Z,
> (and parents and admins want to see grades so you have to come up with some
> half-baked formula) but the grade does not have to reflect the performance
> of a student. Maybe they don't do their HW 8 times or are tardy 5 times and
> get docked, but are solid NH after year 1. Grade = C – How does that have
> anything to do with her ability to function at levels way beyond her peers?
> Don't get me wrong, I was in the classroom for 25 years and know the game
> and what hoops we have to jump through. Gotta give a grade. But damn, I
> want to reward the kid for her performance. Do I have an answer? Sure:
> change the whole friggin system. Do I have a workable answer other than the
> smart-aleck response I just gave? Nope.
>
> ab
>
> From: Harris levinson <hlevinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: OLA Listserve <ola@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:52 PM
> To: OLA Listserve <ola@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [ola] Re: rubrics, please
>
> Exactly. I imagine we not only interpret approaching standard, at
> standard, and exceeding standard differently (maybe not!), but that we also
> have differing ideas regarding what grade each of those receives. I could
> argue that meeting standard is a C, B, or an A depending on how I interpret
> the letter grades C, B, and A!
>
> Right now, I am inclined to give a B to someone who meets standards, an A
> to someone who exceeds them. I have not fully switched to ACTFL standards
> only but hope to get there and am very interested in how those of you who
> have switched turn meeting standard into a letter or numerical grade.
>
> Thank you.
> Harris
>
> 2013/3/12 Tracy Patterson <Tracy.Patterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Hey all-
>> I agree with Arnold :) Attached is the OPIc rating chart for speaking to
>> give you an example. In Oregon, Spanish 1 corresponds to proficiency stage
>> 1 which "approximates ACTFL Novice-Low." Spanish 2, proficiency stage 2,
>>  "approximates Novice-Mid."
>> The challenge is assigning a letter grade to that!
>>
>>
>> Tracy Patterson
>> Profesora de español
>> North Medford High School
>> Department of World Languages
>> 1900 N. Keene Way Drive
>> Medford, Or 97504
>> 541-842-1249
>> "El respeto al derecho ajeno es la paz."
>> Benito Juárez
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ola-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ola-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Nanosh Lucas
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:30 PM
>> To: ola@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ola] rubrics, please
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Would you kindly share your rubric for presentational and writing for
>> Spanish 1 & Spanish 2, respectively?
>>
>> I am working on this with students to help teach them the standards, but
>> it would be good to have something else to refer to. I'm sure I must have
>> this already, but I don't remember where.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Nanosh
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Harris Levinson
> Teacher, Adviser
> Vashon Island High School
>
> Tel:  206.463.9171 x141
>
>
>


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