Odille, My fears were immediate with the first explosion and the Japanese stated there was a leak but luckily for them at that stage the wind was blowing east out over the Pacific. Not that I wished it blow back over the Japanese. The worst case scenario is unimaginable for them. But this is part our and many other Pacific nations food bowl. And Cesium 137 has a half-life of 30 years. I don't want to come across as alarmist but lil amounts over a life is going to have an effect on your wellbeing if you're regularly ingesting this stuff. There are many tiny Pacific nations depending on the sea for food. On another note, it is great it's raining on full moon. It must mean it's going to be a clear new moon ; ) Cheers,CS Rob From: nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Odille Esmonde-Morgan Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2011 09:11 To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: Nuclear Crisis in Japan Rob, You are the first person I've seen mention the ocean - that's been my concern too. Cesium 137 (I think I have the right number) has a long half life, can be carcinogenic and accumulates in the food chain. We share the Pacific Ocean coast with Japan. I want to know if eating fish will be risky or not. Cheers, Odille On 20/03/11 6:20 AM, "Corona Australis" <corona_australis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hey Graham, Welcome back!! I hope all's working well. Thanks for the info on Japan's reactors. The most pointless looking thing about the helicopter drops was most of the water was dissipating before it hit the buildings let alone get into the storage pond at the top of the reactor. It's these storage ponds which apparently are boiling dry and then so causing the problems. They're saying this morning that they have managed to restart the cooling system on No 3 reactor. Let's hope they can fix the rest. I see they have already detected very small amounts of radioactivity on the west coast of the US. One can only assume that varying amounts have entered the oceans between, which is a worry. It's great that the international community is finally coming to the aid of the Libyan people. But I wonder what sort of dictator the west will be propping up next. Cheers,CS Rob From: nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Layt Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2011 17:16 To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: Nuclear Crisis in Japan hey guys long time no see Description: cid:3383453483_569414 I was reading today somewheres that the water bombing is likely more about whats going on at the top than thats whats inside the reactor the spent fuel is stored at the top of the building and the explosions have damage the containment ponds . In the case of no 4 , theres 142 tons of spent fuel rods up there Description: cid:3383453483_583560 our nephew is a 200 km from sendai and while not so much directly affected by the earthquake power rationing is making it very dificult , without heating min temps are very cold . From: Corona Australis <mailto:corona_australis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 8:11 AM a;so To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: Nuclear Crisis in Japan It's seems Mother Nature cannot/will not even extend to us the opportunity of observing this moon event. Cheers,CS Rob From: nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of judith stella Sent: Friday, 18 March 2011 18:22 To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: Nuclear Crisis in Japan Hi guys Just got back from working in Sydney for a few days - I really dislike Sydney - dirty smelly noisy - so its great to be home. I see you've got the downloading covered for now - between the three of us it shouldn't be a problem. Thank goodness Glen didn't have Japan on his travel itinerary! Hope all is good with you. Now we're not even getting to see the full moon - and its the biggest in 20 years!! JS _____ From: nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul McGuiness Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 10:57 PM To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: Nuclear Crisis in Japan Thanks Rob. _____ From: corona_australis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: Nuclear Crisis in Japan Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:24:32 +1100 Have a great trip Glen. From: nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corona Australis Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 20:15 To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: Nuclear Crisis in Japan I'll do it. no prob's From: nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul McGuiness Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 18:56 To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: Nuclear Crisis in Japan Hopefully it will all cool down without any more major radiation leaks. We don't want another Chernobyl or Three Mile Island. I'll rename the solar radiation gif's tomorrow. It's probabe that we will be at the Camping Show at the Gold Coast on Saturday, so it would be good if someone could download Saturday's map. Thanks and best wishes again for a great trip. Paul. _____ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:39:43 +1100 Subject: [nswnra] Re: Nuclear Crisis in Japan From: cozens3@xxxxxxxxx To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Hi All Thanks Paul. I usually name them 03 16 etc (mm dd) The nuclear crisis is not as bad as the media portrays it. The reactors have been shut down and they will cool off. It just takes time. It is amazing they survived so well with a tsunami much worse than anyone ever expected. They do not use weapons grade uranium. CU on 1/7. (New moon is on 1/7) Regards Glen On 17 March 2011 16:49, Paul McGuiness <prepress@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Rob, Yes, it does seem quite desperate to use helicopters and sea water of all things to cool down that deadly furnace. It just goes to show that you need more than just one backup system when building and designing these reactors. It sure gives the anti nuclear lobby some ammunition. I cannot believe that intelligent people would build those reactors in geologically unstable areas. A disaster just waiting to happen. I have started to download those solar radiation maps that Glen wants. If I am likely to be away I will try and post a message here so anyone in the group who is able can download them so there is a complete set. I've just been renaming them: "16 MARCH 2011" etc. Cheers, Paul. On 17/03/2011, at 4:25 PM, Corona Australis wrote: Hi Folks, Forgive me for saying this as the Japanese have had to worst deal dealt to them and we can only but look on from a distance at their poor fortune. But.. is it just me or does it appear ridiculous helicopters trying to water bomb those reactors to cool them down? if these thing are in the first stages of a melt down it would be like using a fire extinguisher to put out a full blown bushfire. I really hope they get this under control not only for Japan but also as radioactive material that has blown east out over the Pacific might have a chance to contaminate our seafood. Cheers,CS Rob PLEASE READ THESE CONDITIONS: The colour that you see on screen can in no way be guaranteed. As you have not seen a hard copy proof you must accept that the colours you see on your screen will never match 100% what your final product will be. 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