Woot ! I was right ! I send the officers a PM when Redskul applied and told them I despised the guy, and he was nothing but bad news. It was the package deal of him coming with a bard that made them bring him on, and his Zorasis-ness in stepping up to bat on the pulls that kept him around. Did I mention I hate the guy? There's only one other guy I've met in EQ who has an ego that matches Redskul's. Actually, it quite surpasses it, and I suggest if you ever meet or group with Asassin you tell him he's a )*(@# @#(% biting )(*#@ )(*#@$ eater of )(#*@$ who )(*@#$ his )(*#@$*!@&!. I cheered when Aiko told me she thought he was GR'd, cause losing him and Failea make that guild OH so much nicer. _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963