Hi there All, Does anyone know what the position is regaurding second hand boilers, in as much as:- *If I buy a second hand loco and it has no boiler paperwork, and is not professionally made, but it looks okay (I agree this is no gaurantee that it wont fail a boiler test); has been used prior to the new regulations, but I have no way of prooving this, will I be able to get my club to give it a boiler certificate? ALSO * I instead I buy the loco from a second hand loco dealer, who has bought the loco under the same similar circumstances, but then tests the boiler and issues it with a certificate to say it has had a steam and hydraulic test; where will I stand as far as a club boiler tester is concerned, will they refuse to issue it with a Northern or Southern fed boiler certificate? Yours, Rich. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.