Not really Al - at the risk of grave embarrassment, I was referring to when I ran the lathe at high speed in reverse, without noticing that the chuck retaining clip was not properly secured, resulting in me being hit by several pounds of steel chuck spinning at 1800 rpm. "OUCH" or words to that effect !!! Unfortunately I then made the stupid mistake of putting the chuck back on and running it again without the clip - I was probably in Shock from having my ribs rtickled as the spinning chuck ran up them one side and then down the other side - but forward this time, to finish the job off. Unfortunately my lathe registers the chuck off that clip and not an apparent vertical register machined into the actual spindle at the end of the threads, resulting in it binding on BIG time, something made worse by me then trying to unwind a frozen chuck the wrong way, and at 6'1" / 220 lbs (in Americanese), and with the long lever I used held across the chuck jaws, the chuck was all but cold welded onto the spindle by the time I gave it up as a bad job. In the end I had to make a cut between the vertical face of the spindle and the chuck backplate, something that I read was done by gunsmiths trying to remove the barrels from P14 and P17 rifles which were over torqued as standard by the way, when the chuck then came off with one hand ... <sob, sob> When I did try to unwind the chuck the wrong way with the lever, that would appear to be when I bent the spindle around where the MT socket is cut into it, and the metal the thinnest, according to Warco. Neither anything held in the chuck nor anything in the MT socket now run true, hence my sad and sorry need of a new spindle., probably along with a pair of tapered roller bearing as well .... <sigh> At least when I am modelling or turning in wood it is usually all done freehand where the precision of metal working isn't required, and more importantly I can hide my mistakes at the bottom of the garden bonfire .... <chuckle> Tony. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Messer" <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Grizzly > "After a major accident"? Tony, are you keeping secrets from your old > mates?? > > Al > > > --- On Sat, 11/8/08, Tony Wells <oaksfield@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> From: Tony Wells <oaksfield@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Grizzly >> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 4:29 PM >> On the 9x20 lathe group, their 9x20 lathes are regarded at >> the better end of >> the spectrum Alan, with many people with similar machines >> such as my Warco, >> using their excellent documentation for our machines. Their >> aftersales >> service is also very good I am told. I have been thinking >> about replacing >> the headstock spindle on my Warco when I replace the >> bearings, after a major >> accident with it, and apparently the Grizzly one is a >> direct fit and of at >> least equal quality according to other Brit list members! >> The Grizzly is >> only $85 plus postage whereas the Warco one is a few >> pennies short of £107 >> including postage however .... >> >> TonyW. >> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.