[modeleng] Re: Grizzly

  • From: Allen Messer <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:47:29 -0800 (PST)

Aw!  Man!  That is tough!  And don't fret---we all make mistakes.  Hope that 
you can set things right without having to mortgage the greenhouse---


Al


--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Tony Wells <oaksfield@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Tony Wells <oaksfield@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Grizzly
> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 3:18 PM
> Not really Al - at the risk of grave embarrassment, I was
> referring to when 
> I ran the lathe at high speed in reverse, without noticing
> that the chuck 
> retaining clip was not properly secured, resulting in me
> being hit by 
> several pounds of steel chuck spinning at 1800 rpm. 
> "OUCH" or words to that 
> effect !!! Unfortunately I then made the stupid mistake of
> putting the chuck 
> back on and running it again without the clip - I was
> probably in Shock from 
> having my ribs rtickled as the spinning chuck ran up them
> one side and then 
> down the other side - but forward this time, to finish the
> job off.
> 
> Unfortunately my lathe registers the chuck off that clip
> and not an apparent 
> vertical register machined into the actual spindle at the
> end of the 
> threads, resulting in it binding on BIG time, something
> made worse by me 
> then trying to unwind a frozen chuck the wrong way, and at
> 6'1" / 220 lbs 
> (in Americanese), and with the long lever I used held
> across the chuck jaws, 
> the chuck was all but cold welded onto the spindle by the
> time I gave it up 
> as a bad job. In the end I had to make a cut between the
> vertical face of 
> the spindle and the chuck backplate, something that I read
> was done by 
> gunsmiths trying to remove the barrels from P14 and P17
> rifles which were 
> over torqued as standard by the way, when the chuck then
> came off with one 
> hand ... <sob, sob>
> 
> When I did try to unwind the chuck the wrong way with the
> lever, that would 
> appear to be when I bent the spindle around where the MT
> socket is cut into 
> it, and the metal the thinnest, according to Warco. Neither
> anything held in 
> the chuck nor anything in the MT socket now run true, hence
> my sad and sorry 
> need of a new spindle., probably along with a pair of
> tapered roller bearing 
> as well .... <sigh> At least when I am modelling or
> turning in wood it is 
> usually all done freehand where the precision of metal
> working isn't 
> required, and more importantly I can hide my mistakes at
> the bottom of the 
> garden bonfire .... <chuckle>
> 
> Tony.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Allen Messer" <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:11 PM
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Grizzly
> 
> 
> > "After a major accident"?  Tony, are you
> keeping secrets from your old 
> > mates??
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 11/8/08, Tony Wells
> <oaksfield@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Tony Wells <oaksfield@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Grizzly
> >> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 4:29 PM
> >> On the 9x20 lathe group, their 9x20 lathes are
> regarded at
> >> the better end of
> >> the spectrum Alan, with many people with similar
> machines
> >> such as my Warco,
> >> using their excellent documentation for our
> machines. Their
> >> aftersales
> >> service is also very good I am told. I have been
> thinking
> >> about replacing
> >> the headstock spindle on my Warco when I replace
> the
> >> bearings, after a major
> >> accident with it, and apparently the Grizzly one
> is a
> >> direct fit and of at
> >> least equal quality according to other Brit list
> members!
> >> The Grizzly is
> >> only $85 plus postage whereas the Warco one is a
> few
> >> pennies short of £107
> >> including postage however ....
> >>
> >> TonyW.
> >>
> 
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