Aw! Man! That is tough! And don't fret---we all make mistakes. Hope that you can set things right without having to mortgage the greenhouse--- Al --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Tony Wells <oaksfield@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Tony Wells <oaksfield@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Grizzly > To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 3:18 PM > Not really Al - at the risk of grave embarrassment, I was > referring to when > I ran the lathe at high speed in reverse, without noticing > that the chuck > retaining clip was not properly secured, resulting in me > being hit by > several pounds of steel chuck spinning at 1800 rpm. > "OUCH" or words to that > effect !!! Unfortunately I then made the stupid mistake of > putting the chuck > back on and running it again without the clip - I was > probably in Shock from > having my ribs rtickled as the spinning chuck ran up them > one side and then > down the other side - but forward this time, to finish the > job off. > > Unfortunately my lathe registers the chuck off that clip > and not an apparent > vertical register machined into the actual spindle at the > end of the > threads, resulting in it binding on BIG time, something > made worse by me > then trying to unwind a frozen chuck the wrong way, and at > 6'1" / 220 lbs > (in Americanese), and with the long lever I used held > across the chuck jaws, > the chuck was all but cold welded onto the spindle by the > time I gave it up > as a bad job. In the end I had to make a cut between the > vertical face of > the spindle and the chuck backplate, something that I read > was done by > gunsmiths trying to remove the barrels from P14 and P17 > rifles which were > over torqued as standard by the way, when the chuck then > came off with one > hand ... <sob, sob> > > When I did try to unwind the chuck the wrong way with the > lever, that would > appear to be when I bent the spindle around where the MT > socket is cut into > it, and the metal the thinnest, according to Warco. Neither > anything held in > the chuck nor anything in the MT socket now run true, hence > my sad and sorry > need of a new spindle., probably along with a pair of > tapered roller bearing > as well .... <sigh> At least when I am modelling or > turning in wood it is > usually all done freehand where the precision of metal > working isn't > required, and more importantly I can hide my mistakes at > the bottom of the > garden bonfire .... <chuckle> > > Tony. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allen Messer" <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:11 PM > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Grizzly > > > > "After a major accident"? Tony, are you > keeping secrets from your old > > mates?? > > > > Al > > > > > > --- On Sat, 11/8/08, Tony Wells > <oaksfield@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> From: Tony Wells <oaksfield@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Subject: [modeleng] Re: Grizzly > >> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 4:29 PM > >> On the 9x20 lathe group, their 9x20 lathes are > regarded at > >> the better end of > >> the spectrum Alan, with many people with similar > machines > >> such as my Warco, > >> using their excellent documentation for our > machines. Their > >> aftersales > >> service is also very good I am told. I have been > thinking > >> about replacing > >> the headstock spindle on my Warco when I replace > the > >> bearings, after a major > >> accident with it, and apparently the Grizzly one > is a > >> direct fit and of at > >> least equal quality according to other Brit list > members! > >> The Grizzly is > >> only $85 plus postage whereas the Warco one is a > few > >> pennies short of £107 > >> including postage however .... > >> > >> TonyW. > >> > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > "unsubscribe" in the subject line. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.