I just received the following from Wilfried, who, for some reason, cannot post to the list. Alan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Hi John, I see you have a lot of questions and until now quite a bit are for me still questions. Over here things started a bit different as I wanted to build a stationary engine but it had to be a big one, being more or less a model and not to simple. The drawing set of "Onder stoom" provided the answer except for the size so I doubled it up. The idea of an steamboat dawned only later. And with that intention in the first place it would probably have been a different engine. The engines most used in steamboats are more of the basic type and a bit oversized in some parts to the benefit of reliability and easy maintenance. No one would like to spend half a day down at the bottom of the boat with the lady looking at his hands. Scanning the net learned me there are a lot of engine designs around. Most of them available at far of places and to me unreachable prices. Just have a look at the Stuart pages and the price for their castings. The boilers, many different types and until now I really haven't a clue which would be suitable. The latest SBA magazine showed a possible candidate design. As usually no detailed drawings just pictures, as on most web pages. Until now I have been unable to find a real drawing as we ME know. There are however a lot of firms around who sell them. Again at far of places and. Hulls "to build or not to build that's the question" many designs for home building are available, Selway Fisher does a few nice ones for home building. Not only the skills but also the place to do it is a problem. I have reconditioned me sailing boat which is 4.7m long, well a garage of 6x4 m is a cramped working space so building a whole boat from scratch? Another option is a boat from the Frollic range. Can be had in different stages of completion and so the price can be adapted to suit your wallet at moment. Another option I seriously considered, and nearly did, was buying a second hand complete steamboat, look and you will surely find a suitable one. There are quite a few on the market, I had a look at quite a few and most of them are in excellent condition. Use it as it is for a while and when me own engine is finished install that one in the boat. All I can say is when you go to a SBA meet get your hands on one of the steamboat registers. It lists all the steamboats of the associations with a lot of details about the engines, boilers and hulls. That gives an idea of what to look for. A lot of info about the boats can also be found on their web page at http://www.steamboat.org.uk/xref/xref_index.htm . And I know it takes a lot of time but the links, some are useless but there are nice ones, quite detailed, which show what others are doing. One danger . beware for steamboat disease. Regards Wilfried Vermeiren http://users.skynet.be/modelbouw.wilfried MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.