I can agree with most of the posts on this subject. However, I see it as an opportunity for us. Model engineering is a hobby, like many, that can absorb as much cash as you have available, so given the paucity of people willing and able to do the occasional one-off, we can subsidise our hobby. A few years ago a local firm asked me to make a pin, basically a 1/4" clevis pin with a stepped shaft and circlip groove. It was an emergency and money was no object. The pin I made lasted longer than those from the maufacturers, so I was asked for more. Eventually I was making them in batches of 6, which I could do in an hour, including set-up time and case hardening them. At £10 each I was more than satisfied. Heck, I will willingly spend the odd evening making £60 an hour! That was the same as the makers of the machine charged, and mine lasted longer. ( A lousy design and the pin was way over-stressed, but that is another matter.) So whilst British, American, wherever, industry might be collapsing, let us take advantage of the situation. . Alan Stepney http://www.alanstepney.info Model Engineering & steam engine information pages MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.