[modeleng] Re: Engineering education - rant
- From: David Everett <deverett2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:53:46 +0100 (BST)
Peter
The 'Subject' should have read: Lack of Engineering education.
Dave
Saudi-Arabia-On-Sea
> So I'm out here at the office in San Diego. We needed a special test
> fixture, and rather than do sketches that get turned into proper drawings
> (or draw things correctly as I was taught 40+ years ago!) followed by
> trying to find a jobbing shop that will follow drawings rather than
> 'improve' things to their ideas, I made the necessary fixture in the home
> workshop in the UK and shipped it out here. Bit of turning, boring out 1
> inch diameter brass bar to fit 22mm copper water pipe and a 21mm diameter
> 1mm pitch thread cutting , with bits of material threaded to suit, other
> turning, threading, knurling and milling jobs - very much an apprentice
> job of 40 years ago.So I find all the engineers here (oldest is about 50)
> marvel at this.'Where did you learn to do this?' sort of thing. 'How do
> you get this funny finish on a thumb screw?'
> 'Oh, you mean knurling'
> 'Is that what it is?'
> Just what sort of engineers are we turning out these days? OK, these are
> integrated circuit designers, but if you're working on radio stuff, you
> must realise that specialised fixtures are needed. I can see that in 10
> years time, this branch of engineering will all be designed in the far
> East because our so-called engineers won't know how to produce the
> necessary mechanical fixtures. At the same time, 'one offs' that don't
> actually justify the time taken to program a CAE machine just won't be
> available. Meanwhile,our so-called 'engineers' have a very narrow view....
>
> I wonder if the 'amateur' or 'model' engineer will suddenly be in demand
> for 'craftmanship', although God knows, I'm no craftsman. Go to the ME
> exhibitions, and marvel and wonder at the real craftmanship.......I do.
>
> Not that I know any mechanical engineering. I took ONC Applied Mechanics 5
> times................and failed 5 times. Then gave up.
>
> Peter Chadwick.
> Radio Engineer (and proud of it!)
> Swindon - sometimes. San Diego this week.
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