Tim If you get lots of clinker you are using the wrong coal. Good Welsh Steam Coal produces very little. There is no way, looking into a 5" gauge firebox, that you can see clinker. You notice it by the fire simply failing to function properly. A metal coat hanger with a bent bit at the end and a loop at the other works wonders for raking the fire as you stop in the station to take on water, use the injector and build up the fire. In my experience a heavy fire, too much coal and not enough real heat, tends to produce clinker much faster than a thin fire just covering the grate but hot as hell. If you get too much clinker the only real option is drop the firebox, clean it off and start again. We had a batch of poor coal at IDSME last year and boy was it noticeable. We decided it was best used on the fire in the Booking Office, which incidentally is now fully functional and fitted out, unlike the last time you saw it. Methinks you need to visit again in the spring with your loco on tow. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Rickard" <the_viffer@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: [modeleng] Clinker Thanks to all for responding to my smokebox innards question. You may suppose that I will have a request for further and better particulars soon but now for another wally question. I've been pondering, I really should get out more, on clinker. I run my locos. They steam well to start with. I poke the fire about a bit. I throw out the really manky bits of coal before firing them. The pressure is more and more reluctant to come up. I drop the fire and find loads of clinker. Two questions. First when I look at the the fire or rake it how do I spot the clinker? Second question what do I do save for pull it out, if I can recognise it amongst the other white hot bits when I find some? MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.