[macvoiceover] Re: Voiceover saying busy all the time

  • From: David Poehlman <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:22:31 -0400

it takes a good while to populate. try waiting a few minutes and then try to open after going to it. in other words, go down the list, when you get to apps, wait a few minutes and then go right.


On Oct 24, 2009, at 10:13 PM, carlene knight wrote:

Hi:

Once I get into the system profiler I can't choose applications as it won't open. It just thunks at me. I guess i can't participate, but why won't it let me open the menu?


On Oct 23, 2009, at 9:00 AM, David Poehlman wrote:

it's system profiler and there are two ways to activate it.
1) open the apple menu, open about this mac and click "more info".

2) open the utilities folder which is found in the applications folder you can get there with command-shift-a to open the applications folder and then find the utilities folder. systemprofiler is an app in that folder which you can open and save its output to text but you should only send the portions that are relivant to the list as the file is quite large.

On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:

It would be interesting to have more details about the systems where this is happening. Perhaps the people that are experiencing the problem could use that system profiler tool in the apps folder to post info about their systems. I think it is called System Info. Not sure if it can save output, but don't imagine that it couldn't.

Probably, they don't have a monitor connected, are running at a strange display resolution, or some other factor is being overlooked. It can't be a coincidence that those reporting the problems (that I've seen, at least), are using Minis, which lack a lot of common hardware found on other Macs. For example, if you have a MacBook or IMac, you always have a monitor, and I think that the OS automatically selects the native resolution for the display when you install. On a Mini, even if you connect a monitor at some point, it wasn't connected during the install of the OS, so perhaps some setting that is normally only automatically set at install time has been missed.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ignasi Cambra
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:34 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Voiceover saying busy all the time

I insist, this cannot possibly have to do with RAM. I use a mini with 1gb of ram and a 2.0ghz core2 duo and it really does work well. I've used it for youtube and all kinds of things. Maybe we should give Apple the serial numbers for computers where VO works well and computers where it doesn't. I really don't know what it can be, but it doesn't seem as though it has to do with RAM, at least not for me...
On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:43 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:

VoiceOver says that a program is "busy" basically when that program is
doing a lot of work and it isn't responding to VoiceOver's requests
for info about what it is displaying.

Put another technical way, the program is frozen/not responding. On
Windows, this would be like when a program is doing lots of work, or
becomes stuck, and the screen reader can't read anything from the
window because of this. VoiceOver doesn't seem to get stuck like many
of the Windows screen readers when applications freeze, but, when the
applications freeze, it blocks VoiceOver from reading anything in
their windows.

This happens to me a lot in Safari, particularly when on sites like
Hulu that show video content. When the flash player on the page is
running, it seems to bog down Safari/make it respond slowly, VoiceOver
responds slowly, and I hear "Safari busy".

I have a MacBook Pro (2.5Ghz dual core and 4GB of RAM), so I don't
know how much more computer you're supposed to throw at it to make it
run smoothly. Maybe flash player is just a terribly written plug- in,
and no amount of CPU power and memory will help.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amanda
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:55 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Voiceover saying busy all the time

Hi,

I've just installed Snowleopard on my new Mac. I've noticed that over
the last day or so, Voiceover has been saying "busy" quite a lot,
particularly when opening Safari and Itunes. Is there anything I can
do about this?

Amanda

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