Do you have a monitor attached? It seems like most people reporting problems have Minis, and I know that many Mini users are running without monitors attached. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of carlene knight Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:14 PM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Voiceover saying busy all the time Hi: Once I get into the system profiler I can't choose applications as it won't open. It just thunks at me. I guess i can't participate, but why won't it let me open the menu? On Oct 23, 2009, at 9:00 AM, David Poehlman wrote: > it's system profiler and there are two ways to activate it. > 1) open the apple menu, open about this mac and click "more info". > > 2) open the utilities folder which is found in the applications folder > you can get there with command-shift-a to open the applications folder > and then find the utilities folder. > systemprofiler is an app in that folder which you can open and save > its output to text but you should only send the portions that are > relivant to the list as the file is quite large. > > On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > > It would be interesting to have more details about the systems where > this is happening. Perhaps the people that are experiencing the > problem could use that system profiler tool in the apps folder to post > info about their systems. I think it is called System Info. Not sure > if it can save output, but don't imagine that it couldn't. > > Probably, they don't have a monitor connected, are running at a > strange display resolution, or some other factor is being overlooked. > It can't be a coincidence that those reporting the problems (that I've > seen, at least), are using Minis, which lack a lot of common hardware > found on other Macs. For example, if you have a MacBook or IMac, you > always have a monitor, and I think that the OS automatically selects > the native resolution for the display when you install. On a Mini, > even if you connect a monitor at some point, it wasn't connected > during the install of the OS, so perhaps some setting that is normally > only automatically set at install time has been missed. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ignasi Cambra > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:34 AM > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Voiceover saying busy all the time > > I insist, this cannot possibly have to do with RAM. I use a mini with > 1gb of ram and a 2.0ghz core2 duo and it really does work well. > I've used it for youtube and all kinds of things. Maybe we should give > Apple the serial numbers for computers where VO works well and > computers where it doesn't. I really don't know what it can be, but it > doesn't seem as though it has to do with RAM, at least not for me... > On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:43 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > >> VoiceOver says that a program is "busy" basically when that program >> is doing a lot of work and it isn't responding to VoiceOver's >> requests for info about what it is displaying. >> >> Put another technical way, the program is frozen/not responding. On >> Windows, this would be like when a program is doing lots of work, or >> becomes stuck, and the screen reader can't read anything from the >> window because of this. VoiceOver doesn't seem to get stuck like many >> of the Windows screen readers when applications freeze, but, when the >> applications freeze, it blocks VoiceOver from reading anything in >> their windows. >> >> This happens to me a lot in Safari, particularly when on sites like >> Hulu that show video content. When the flash player on the page is >> running, it seems to bog down Safari/make it respond slowly, >> VoiceOver responds slowly, and I hear "Safari busy". >> >> I have a MacBook Pro (2.5Ghz dual core and 4GB of RAM), so I don't >> know how much more computer you're supposed to throw at it to make it >> run smoothly. Maybe flash player is just a terribly written plug- in, >> and no amount of CPU power and memory will help. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- >> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amanda >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:55 PM >> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Voiceover saying busy all the time >> >> Hi, >> >> I've just installed Snowleopard on my new Mac. I've noticed that >> over the last day or so, Voiceover has been saying "busy" quite a >> lot, particularly when opening Safari and Itunes. 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