[macvoiceover] Re: Voiceover saying busy all the time

Do you have a monitor attached? It seems like most people reporting problems 
have Minis, and I know that many Mini users are running without monitors 
attached.

Bryan 

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[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of carlene knight
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:14 PM
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Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Voiceover saying busy all the time

Hi:

Once I get into the system profiler I can't choose applications as it won't 
open.  It just thunks at me.  I guess i can't participate, but why won't it let 
me open the menu?


On Oct 23, 2009, at 9:00 AM, David Poehlman wrote:

> it's system profiler and there are two ways to activate it.
> 1) open the apple menu, open about this mac and click "more info".
>
> 2) open the utilities folder which is found in the applications folder 
> you can get there with command-shift-a to open the applications folder 
> and then find the utilities folder.
> systemprofiler is an app in that folder which you can open and save 
> its output to text but you should only send the portions that are 
> relivant to the list as the file is quite large.
>
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>
> It would be interesting to have more details about the systems where 
> this is happening. Perhaps the people that are experiencing the 
> problem could use that system profiler tool in the apps folder to post 
> info about their systems. I think it is called System Info. Not sure 
> if it can save output, but don't imagine that it couldn't.
>
> Probably, they don't have a monitor connected, are running at a 
> strange display resolution, or some other factor is being overlooked. 
> It can't be a coincidence that those reporting the problems (that I've 
> seen, at least), are using Minis, which lack a lot of common hardware 
> found on other Macs. For example, if you have a MacBook or IMac, you 
> always have a monitor, and I think that the OS automatically selects 
> the native resolution for the display when you install. On a Mini, 
> even if you connect a monitor at some point, it wasn't connected 
> during the install of the OS, so perhaps some setting that is normally 
> only automatically set at install time has been missed.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- 
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ignasi Cambra
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:34 AM
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Voiceover saying busy all the time
>
> I insist, this cannot possibly have to do with RAM. I use a mini with 
> 1gb of ram and a 2.0ghz core2 duo and it really does work well.
> I've used it for youtube and all kinds of things. Maybe we should give 
> Apple the serial numbers for computers where VO works well and 
> computers where it doesn't. I really don't know what it can be, but it 
> doesn't seem as though it has to do with RAM, at least not for me...
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:43 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>
>> VoiceOver says that a program is "busy" basically when that program 
>> is doing a lot of work and it isn't responding to VoiceOver's 
>> requests for info about what it is displaying.
>>
>> Put another technical way, the program is frozen/not responding. On 
>> Windows, this would be like when a program is doing lots of work, or 
>> becomes stuck, and the screen reader can't read anything from the 
>> window because of this. VoiceOver doesn't seem to get stuck like many 
>> of the Windows screen readers when applications freeze, but, when the 
>> applications freeze, it blocks VoiceOver from reading anything in 
>> their windows.
>>
>> This happens to me a lot in Safari, particularly when on sites like 
>> Hulu that show video content. When the flash player on the page is 
>> running, it seems to bog down Safari/make it respond slowly, 
>> VoiceOver responds slowly, and I hear "Safari busy".
>>
>> I have a MacBook Pro (2.5Ghz dual core and 4GB of RAM), so I don't 
>> know how much more computer you're supposed to throw at it to make it 
>> run smoothly. Maybe flash player is just a terribly written plug- in, 
>> and no amount of CPU power and memory will help.
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- 
>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amanda
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:55 PM
>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Voiceover saying busy all the time
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've just installed Snowleopard on my new Mac.  I've noticed that 
>> over the last day or so, Voiceover has been saying "busy" quite a 
>> lot, particularly when opening  Safari and Itunes.  Is there anything 
>> I can do about this?
>>
>> Amanda
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