I don't see a bug. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara Quinn" <Cara-Quinn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:10 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Having VoiceOver start at log-in Have you or someone else written Apple and filed this as a bug?… Smiles, Cara :) On May 7, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Rich Caloggero wrote: > Not sitting at the mac right now, but I had a hell of a time with > this myself. The issue is that there is an unlabeled (actually > completely silent) control which switches you between pages in the > dialog. The page which appears when you first enter it has two tabs > (password, and login items). What you need to do is to tab around > until you land on a control that doesn't speak. Y > You then need to hit downArrow once then examine the dialog again. > You should now find the setting for starting voiceOver at login. > Note that you can't find this control with voKeys+rightArrow. It > does not have a label and it has no type either, so VoiceOver just > doesn't see it. The only way you can get to it is via the tab key > (it is in the tab order of the application). > > Maybe someone else with a mac in front of them can give better > directions, but its not obvious how to do this in my opinion. I > spent over an hour trying to figure this out before I found that > unlabeled control. > > Hope this helps. > -- Rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Neal Ewers > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53 PM > Subject: [macvoiceover] Having VoiceOver start at log-in > > Hi all, I have tried to follow Apple's instructions to have > VoiceOver start at log-in with no luck. The following is taken from > a file I just received from Apple. > 1 Click the System Preferences icon in the Dock or choose Apple menu > > System > Preferences to open System Preferences. > > 2 Click Accounts. > > 3 Click Login Options below the accounts list. > If the Login Options button is dimmed, click the lock icon at the > bottom of the > Accounts window and type an administrator’s name and password to > unlock the > window. > > 4 Select the checkbox labeled “Use VoiceOver at login window.” > OK, I have entered my password and have looked at the two tabs that > are there I have tried to add a log-in item, but I don't see > VoiceOver listed there at all. What am I missing? > > Thanks much. > > Neal > > > Neal Ewers > Ravenswood Productions > Madison Wisconsin > Local phone: 608-277-1995 > Toll Free: 888-544-8332 > email: neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://ravenswood.org > FTP site: ftp://ftp.ravenswood.org > Skype name: neal163 > --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >