Neil, you do not ad it, you check it. the item to check is "use voiceover at login window". It is necessary to click the lock to make changes and provide your password for this checkbox to become active other wise, it is dimmed. Use vo keys to naviage or use the item chooser. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:53 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Having VoiceOver start at log-in Hi all, I have tried to follow Apple's instructions to have VoiceOver start at log-in with no luck. The following is taken from a file I just received from Apple. 1 Click the System Preferences icon in the Dock or choose Apple menu > System Preferences to open System Preferences. 2 Click Accounts. 3 Click Login Options below the accounts list. If the Login Options button is dimmed, click the lock icon at the bottom of the Accounts window and type an administrator's name and password to unlock the window. 4 Select the checkbox labeled "Use VoiceOver at login window." OK, I have entered my password and have looked at the two tabs that are there I have tried to add a log-in item, but I don't see VoiceOver listed there at all. What am I missing? Thanks much. Neal Neal Ewers Ravenswood Productions Madison Wisconsin Local phone: 608-277-1995 Toll Free: 888-544-8332 email: neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://ravenswood.org <http://ravenswood.org/> FTP site: ftp://ftp.ravenswood.org <ftp://ftp.ravenswood.org/> Skype name: neal163 > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >